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RobHayes
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25th Nov 06 at 18:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
£144 inc next day delivery. can go for upto £200 though, especially the 5th gen version like i have with teflon coated rotors
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how much u think it will cost to fit it all to the z18 engine?
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i darent think about cost yet. it wont be cheap though i dont think
worst bit will be lowering the compression so it doesnt blow up
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I have a figure in my head. I reckon 1500 quid to buy, make, and map.
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quote:
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I have a figure in my head. I reckon 1500 quid to buy, make, and map.


i think thats a little optimistic, if it was just charging the standard engine then yes
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do they fetch as much as that we have box's of them at work might need to borrow a few
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He'll be pissed off now
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how much u recon robin for just fitting and sorting everything out for the supercharger?
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well...

engine - £450
charger - £200
pipes + plenum - £200 (if you make them)
Throttle body - £100 for a decent size one
Management and mapping - £1000
Pistons - £400
other bits (FPR, manifolds, gaskets)- £400

so £2750 for just the Z18 and a charger, if you fit it yourself and you have no bits.

Rob has management though, and some other bits, which is why I reckon he can do it for 1500 quid
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i'd say thats about right

im hoping to find a z18xe, with the cat as part of the manifold and use that instead of my 4>1, readon being keeping it MOT able etc. with a custom centre pipe from the manifold flange back to the backbox
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If you need storage space for the engine temporarily, I've got 6sq/m to spare
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quote:
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If you need storage space for the engine temporarily, I've got 6sq/m to spare


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My garage is empty. when you get the engine, if you need somewhere to store it, you can borrow (rent) some space...
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so i get an engine from up here, bring it down to you where i cant work on it (and no doubt you will fiddle having nothing to do all day) only to have to come and fetch it again?

good plan
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yep.
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may be a bit of help for a cheap engine if u want, not sure if this is the right one though and rob where, want to store a kadett in there?


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that's the right engine

I dont think a Kadett would fit dude my garage is REALLY short
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thats the right engine, is a x18xe1 by the age of it. right sort of mileage too, not too high, but not that low it would be a waste to strip it down. shame im skint until next month
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quote:
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that's the right engine

I dont think a Kadett would fit dude my garage is REALLY short




ahh so its not 6sq/m

i thought u had rented a unit or something
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it is 6sq/m, but its a crap shape, its 2x3, with about .5 taken up at the back with racking.
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what a thico, i was think it was 6x6 what a spanner!
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sunday 26th november:

charger wont fit behind the block, its almost as wide as the block itself
next plan is to see if i can move the radiator forwards enough so it fits between the radiator and exhaust manifold, mounted to a custom bracket onto the engine mount
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why dont you get a rotrex as you can get a very small unit which produces alot of power. I know of somebody who has charged there ignis using a rotrex and they have got figures of 175ish bhp.
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they're a lot more money, and they don't whine, I presume they were the 2 reasons he's gone for the cooper s one.
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yes, the rotrex ones are alot more expensive, and IMO are a bodge of a turbo and an alternator pulley. also, the turbine type supercharger produce their power higher up the rev range, whereas the roots type i have gives more low to mid range power.

and i'm aiming for slightly more than 175bhp


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