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Robin
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28th Nov 06 at 00:06   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
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Deano, not a 12v mate

Gearbox on the 1.6 engine didnt have a speedo sender hole, so the speedo never worked, hence the EML, that was 4200rpm in 5th, so probably quite a bit more than 90mph , with no water in it


I remember that being in another thread and it was a 12v because I said about him pushing the engine a fair bit.


not that pic, I can assure you it was a 1.6.
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bet thats a good excuse with the police speedo dont work




that's an instant fine, and the possibility of the car being impounded for not being roadworthy
deano87
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Fair enough.

Haimsey, that wouldn't work as a broken speedo is also illegal. You could just do what the Porsche powered campervan on Gumball 3000 did - they had the original speedo that meant it didn't go as fast as the van could. The police stopped them accused them of doing such high speed, and they got out of it by pointing at the speedo saying they couldn't go that quick because the speedo wouldn't let them. They were abroad at this point though.
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Deano, not a 12v mate

Gearbox on the 1.6 engine didnt have a speedo sender hole, so the speedo never worked, hence the EML, that was 4200rpm in 5th, so probably quite a bit more than 90mph , with no water in it


That why its reading 100 degrees centigrade?

[Edited on 28-11-2006 by Eckmcmann]
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28th Nov 06 at 00:11   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
yep, the coolant temp sensor was reading 100 degrees in the AIR

anyway, the Veccy will do 131.
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according to the digi display it's doing 137.1!! Thats pretty quick.


or maybe how many miles are on the trip meter


oh.


I pray to god you were joking
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ive got a vectra sri 140(2.0 16v), ive had it upto just a tad over 140mph on the clocks with a bit more to go id say it would do 145mph, thats what the clocks were reading, didnt have a sat nav or anything to back it up tho, really good cars i love mine
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yes, a 1.4, and the bottom one is a B, which originally was a 1.4, and even with the 1.6, it wouldnt do 130.

The vectra will do 131mph, according to vauxhall figures.


I had an indacated 133mph out of mine
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28th Nov 06 at 00:57   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
well, I never actually had a working speedo, so it might have read 130 on the speedo if it had worked, but i'll never know
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28th Nov 06 at 01:02   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Rob, 4200rpm is only around 85mph, not as much as you thought.

70mph is 3500rpm in the 1.6's.
Scotty C
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well, I never actually had a working speedo, so it might have read 130 on the speedo if it had worked, but i'll never know


It was on the limiter in 5th (obviously) and IIRC the 1.6 16v sport comes with the f15CR?

Whats that website where u put in wheel size etc and it tells you how fast your actually going?

You can guess roughly how fast you were going by the revs, surely?
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Rob, 4200rpm is only around 85mph, not as much as you thought.

70mph is 3500rpm in the 1.6's.


I thought the 1.6 would be slightly faster, my 1.4 did about 85 at 4200

Not that it really matters
Scotty C
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Gears on the 1.6 are stupidly close.
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Rob, you should know, its not the power that matters, its the gearing, and IIRC all Sports came with the same F15CR gearbox?
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The power does make a difference though Tom, not much though.

Thats how Rod Tarry got 206mph from a sierra cosworth, after getting 201 from it, just by adding more power.
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But it must have revved higher, after all the speed of the car is directly related to the speed of the gearbox cogs and the ratios between the cogs.
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yeah, it probably revved all through 5th, instead of stopping at 5k, like most cars do. but the power allows that
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Yes Rob, thats what I mean, but to go back to the original point of our discussion, if the 1.4 and 1.6 had the same gearbox and were both revving at 4200rpm, they would both be doing the same speed, around 85 mph yes?
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yes, probably
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according to the digi display it's doing 137.1!! Thats pretty quick.


or maybe how many miles are on the trip meter


oh.


I pray to god you were joking


I was taking the piss!!!
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Originally posted by j7 gkk
ive got a vectra sri 140(2.0 16v), ive had it upto just a tad over 140mph on the clocks with a bit more to go id say it would do 145mph, thats what the clocks were reading, didnt have a sat nav or anything to back it up tho, really good cars i love mine


Someone to back me up lol obviously yours is a higher end model with more bhp but still i dont see why it weren't doing 130 last night lol
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my mothers 1.8 Vectra used to top out at 126mph and just sit there.

a 2.0 16v should do about the same.
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I hit 130mph on the clocks in a 1.8 Vectra Hire car.
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My mothers sat at 126mph for ages it propably would have hit 130mph eventually. There was 5 of us in the car tho and 3 suitcases in the back coming home from manchester air port.
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In 5th gear, the revs should in theory be half of the speed. i.e. 3500rpm for 70, 4000rpm for 80 on standard boxes. My Corsa does 3500rpm at 70, so does dads Transit.

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