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dave17
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21st Dec 06 at 15:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

niiiiiiiiiiiiiice cheers.

I have centred it also, but been a numpty and not deleted off a slice, so i now have a frame i dont want, but cant delete it.

Looking good though

Cheers 4 ur help boys
AndyKent
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quote:
Originally posted by Dom
btw, if you want it W3C valid (or what ever its called) then you need to start using xHTML (think thats what its called)....ie <BR> becomes <BR/> and crap like that. Absolute pointless if you ask me but a lot of people are asking for it, same as using divs - can be useful but cause a lot headaches between browsers


That is if you want XHTML compliance

As far as I know <br> is fine for standard HTML compliance

You can use http://validator.w3.org/check/referer to check compliance (if you wish) - most of it is a right pain in the arse for little gain.....
Brett
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Instead of editing code with <br> you could also do shift+enter
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Ok. it looks like this in Dreamweaver:



But comes out like this?

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Any ideas why the top image isnt coming out? Doesnt in firefox either..........
dave17
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done it
drax
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I could have done that by hand for you in twenty mins
dave17
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But then i wouldnt have learn anything
dave17
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Uploaded test site:

http://www.annantech.com/davidsite.html
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its awfull... i know its not your design but still the coding is, and i know your probs new to it but its all done in tables ! shocking.

my company could built for you using xhtml in under an hour .

http://www.mediapixel.co.uk
dave17
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Jesus christ, who was that site designed for? People who sit 5 metres away from their monitor?! The site looks good, but the font is HUGE.

I did design that, but its exactly what they wanted, so cant really argue with that.

And i didnt really want to pay anyone to code it, as i wouldnt make much money from making the site, plus i wouldnt have learnt anything.

I know there are a few problems with the test site i uploaded, but it is exactly that, a test site, to iron out the problems.

I still need to work out now to move that gradient bar over to the left more, and get ride of that small grey line above it, just under the menu.

Also need to find a nice font.
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if thats what they were after then its perfect, I dont see the big problem with using tables on such a simple site, christ there are massive sites out there still using them!!
Ian
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
I dont see the big problem with using tables on such a simple site, christ there are massive sites out there still using them!!
Yeah
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by waynep
its awfull... i know its not your design but still the coding is, and i know your probs new to it but its all done in tables ! shocking.

my company could built for you using xhtml in under an hour .

http://www.mediapixel.co.uk


no offence mate, but your site runs pretty terrible. For starters, it's slower than a snail crawling through poo (suprised considering it's on eukhost, which are uk server i believe). The actually design is pretty good, but like dave said the font is huuuuuuuuge, the blind could read that

And hows using tables shocking? it's no more shocking that being a ponce using xhtml with divs etc. Certainly a lot easier to code and tables don't offer anywhere near the problems divs do between browsers.
Also dave knocked it up in dreamweaver, reason why the codes pretty shocking.

Eitherway dave, site design does look naff, but if it's what they are after then you've done the right thing. Though there is a few problems with it dave.
Image error bottom left of the home link (on top nav bar). Generally the table layout is a bit shocking, shouldn't have 16 colums for starters and the whole bottom row (after copyright) could go and replaced with a colspan.
Did you slice that up in dreamweaver?
I would slice it up under photoshop, export the jpgs and build it up around that. Look at nesting tables within tables (instead of using rows/cols and row/colspans etc), it's a bit of dirty trick to do but it works and i've found it to cause less headaches between browsers.

Also dave, get a HTML book and start learning html from scratch, it's the only decent way of doing it that relying on dreamweaver that does a half arsed job of it all
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its large because its made on a mac lol thats my excuse, it works on all browsers and screens but if your using the standard 1024 res then unfortunatly its big. try viewing it with a nice large res its shaweeet its on most css design comunities and rating sites and always has 9 or abouve rating etc. thanks for comments . our clients dont mind
Gary
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quote:
Originally posted by waynep
its awfull... i know its not your design but still the coding is, and i know your probs new to it but its all done in tables ! shocking.

my company could built for you using xhtml in under an hour .

http://www.mediapixel.co.uk


I'm sorry but there is no way i would buy a website off someone who's own website looks like that.
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istock is ok for photos dave but ill u2u u a better site.
dave17
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wayne im using 1280x1024 and its still HUGE

Surely the majority of pc users would be using 1024x768 or 1280x1024, why design a site that should be viewed above that?
dave17
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I have updated again

http://www.annantech.com/davidsite2.html
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quote:
Originally posted by waynep
its large because its made on a mac lol thats my excuse, it works on all browsers and screens but if your using the standard 1024 res then unfortunatly its big. try viewing it with a nice large res its shaweeet its on most css design comunities and rating sites and always has 9 or abouve rating etc. thanks for comments . our clients dont mind


FPMSL @ that comment. How does making it on a mac make any difference?!!!

I'm on a 1900*1200 screen res on a 24" mac and that text still looks big for me!!!

Do a statistics check on your site, and see how many people are using 1024 screens. The BIG majority use 1024*768 resolutions. Yes, your clients like them and that indeed is, all that matters at the end of the day, but I reckon you would get far more business with a decent company website.

I don't mean to be offensive here, but at the end of the day everyone has their own style. However, doing web/graphic design myself, I find your site sort of 'child-like' with the absolutely massive text. If I was a prospective client I'd go elsewhere.

I personally think you could be making much more money and gaining many more clients with a better company website.

First impressions are everything as they say...
John_C
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looks fine dave
dave17
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I have updated the menu with a rollover image, as this is what she asked for, does it look dodgy though? I cant make my mind up.

Refresh this link:

http://www.annantech.com/davidsite3.html

Mouse over 'home'

[Edited on 09-01-2007 by dave17]
Melville
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This waynep guy sounds like a right cunt
dave17
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What do you think of the mouseover?

xx
Melville
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Doesnt look bad but its only on home, I'd need to see the rest too before I can judge

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