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Warren G
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dave, what are you pulleys set at?
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i agree with you with the above dave. if i had the money and could take the car off the road for a period of time then i would put tb's on.

i just want to get it running again and race a couple of things see how fast or slow it realy is.
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quote:
Originally posted by warren.g
dave, what are you pulleys set at?


its irrelevant mate as each engine and map will require a different setting. also, the piper and schrick cams are completely different. setting cams can only be done on a RR during mapping.

also, I dont know what they are set at as far as degrees from tdc, I set them to where thy work best through the rev range
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what cams would you say were better then, got the choose of piper of kent cams (can get em reprofiled for £45, coz i no some one )

kent do 260, and piper do 265

just wanted a ruff guide to start with, that was all, or should i leave them were they were set when you sold then to me or set to 0 degrees?

[Edited on 24-12-2006 by warren.g]
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whats the lift on them
Warren G
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piper 264's - .395 valve lift in/ex (110deg) timing 22-62/62-22

kent 260 - .397 valve lift in/ex (110deg) timing 20-60/60-20
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have you seen newman cams?
Warren G
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no, whys that?

i no someone who buys alot from piper/kent, and get me some cams reprofiled for £45! so think im getting them! don't no which ones to get tho, my dads had pipers before and he thinks there crap, hes happy with dr. sckirk cams tho
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http://www.newman-cams.com/

there cams are pritty cheap and made from blanks.
dhdev
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Corsa GSI C16XE engine, SBD/Jenvey taper throttle bodies, MBE engine management, ITG Megaflow sausage air filter, Polished trumpets, Autosprint stg2 camshafts, Ported/polished/gasflowed/skimmed cylinder head with double valve springs, SBD vernier pulleys, SBD aluminium cambelt rollers, Re-bored/honed/skimmed block, Omega/SBD pistons, Lightened + balanced crank and rods, ARP bottom end bolts, Lightened + balanced Nova GSI flywheel, Adjustable fuel regulator, Bosch cream injectors, SBD coil pack,Magnecor ignition leads, Mocal 10row oil cooler, SBD/BTB exhaust manifold, Powerflow 2.25” twin box exhaust.

It produces 169bhp @ 7467rpm
119lbft @ 6046rpm
Recorded at NMS.
Its massively held back by the very mild re-ground cams
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i bet thats fucking rapid. thought the torque would be a bit more. you got any vids or pics?
Warren G
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would of fort you would of made abit more torque than that? whats restricting it?

got any pics

£280+vat for cams

[Edited on 24-12-2006 by warren.g]
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hmm they must have put there price up. it was 220 inc vat at one time.
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As said its the cams that are holding it back
Its in a nova BTW

Pics







A short vid

http://media.putfile.com/FHM-ferrari-racing
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looks good. it is quick
dhdev
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Looking at the graphs I think there could be more problems that need diagnosing. Can anyone explain the serious dips in the plots?

Torque



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X14XE
Pipercross Viper
Lexmaul Inlet
Janspeed 4 branch manifold
Sportex Decat
Blueflame BFO System
Chipwizards ECU Remap

116 bhp, 96.2 lb/ft

X16XE
Pipercross Viper
Lexmaul Inlet
Janspeed 4 branch manifold
Sportex Decat
Blueflame BFO System
Chipwizards ECU Remap

130 bhp, 123 lb/ft
Adam-D
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theres some piss poor torque figures here.

id rather have 130 bhp and 125-130 of torque than 150 to 180 bhp and still only 130 of torque

i am led to belive to be a good car that drives well the torque shud be as close to the bhp figure as poss
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you will also no that the small block xe's are shit for torque. ave you any ideas of how to improve torque figures.
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam-D
theres some piss poor torque figures here.

id rather have 130 bhp and 125-130 of torque than 150 to 180 bhp and still only 130 of torque

i am led to belive to be a good car that drives well the torque shud be as close to the bhp figure as poss


You are led to believe wrongly. Torque is required for comfortable cruising, towing caravans and for trucks.
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You can't easily get the torque past about 130lb/ft N/A though Adam, that's the only real problem with the engine.

But, 190bhp + 122lb/ft still makes a bloody quick car
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ahh right ok
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very cool thread...not bad figures for the 1.4's! maybe stat getting mine built up...more interesting wud be the price for these gains haha like how much spent for it all )
dhdev
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One million dollars!
Dean B
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dhdev, what time does that run the 1/4 in?

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