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21st Jan 07 at 22:04

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Originally posted by Ant

quote:
Originally posted by jr
indeed ant, im thinking thats a n20 setup

one thing at a time then, to me you car has always been about 2 things

ultra light
doing things right

I know what id be doing and it wouldnt involve any gas

cheers, regardless fast is fast, if gas makes it better i will use it

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21st Jan 07 at 22:05

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Originally posted by STEvieXE

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Originally posted by Matt H
Also who is making your fibreglass stuff for you?

k3vmcb i heard is chief panel beater/ f/glass fabricator in the making of j18

im going to get wonderboy to paint it as well

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21st Jan 07 at 22:06

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Originally posted by BeArDy
It all depends on how clean you like your car.
Fiberglass panels do not line up and bow out of shape when at high speeds (Door tops bow out etc).
I looked into it for the twin engine corsa and went to look at BAT motorsports Corsa's as all panels are fiberglass (Doors,Boot,Roof,Wings etc etc) and i just couldent live with the lines the panels made and the ruffness off them.
Before doing the all fiberglass shell i would tell anyone to take a trip to BAT in liverpool and talk to them about it all (they offer fiberglass,carbon and kevlar panels)

cheers beady, sort of helped make my mind up

Robin

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21st Jan 07 at 22:06

I'd sacrifice panels gaps for weight saving.

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21st Jan 07 at 22:06

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Originally posted by Matt H

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Originally posted by jr
i'll buy it from somewhere, im not going to use a boot again as i dont want the hassel of fitting it, so will get a perpex rear window and drill the boot

Was the boot a pain then?

We need someone to make some normal wings in fibreglass

i colount work out a way to mount it that didn require me drilling holes in my shell

Marc

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21st Jan 07 at 22:06

Fibreglass panels
polly carb windows
Painted underneath
1.6 on tb's.

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21st Jan 07 at 22:08

i have a strange urge to fit van rear windows though, as they are lighter, yet wont have to worry about scratches etc with perpex

Ant

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21st Jan 07 at 22:10

perspex isnt bad fot scratches its poly carb thats bad have you looked on the plastics for performance site?

BeArDy

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21st Jan 07 at 22:11

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Originally posted by Robin
I'd sacrifice panels gaps for weight saving.

Go to BAT for the day and come back tell me the same.
I would rather spend the money on getting alittle more power to compensate for the extra weight.
For a total track car then ye go for fiberglass panels, IF you plan to use the car on the road then 110% no.
70mph on the motorway and the tops of your doors bow out just think off the ammount of air flowing into your car with a 2-3" gap PLUS think of the ammount of stress each panel would be under after time everything cracks (trust me i have seen it)

Dan A

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21st Jan 07 at 22:13

Sell it and buy a ford

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21st Jan 07 at 22:14

Butler

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21st Jan 07 at 22:16

I was just about to say sell it and buy a ford then I saw the above post, seriously though, I think you should.

STEvieXE

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21st Jan 07 at 22:17

u could buy the f/glass panels and fix the gaps whe u fit them??

altho from wot ive heard/read on this, bowing the doors out when being driven wont be a prob for jr???

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21st Jan 07 at 22:18

quote:
Originally posted by Robin
I'd sacrifice panels gaps for weight saving.

I'd say you'd be better off lightening the steel pannels and using plastic windows. The glass weighs a lot! Fibreglass is shit

Matt H

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21st Jan 07 at 22:18

quote:
Originally posted by BeArDy

I looked into it for the twin engine corsa and went to look at BAT motorsports Corsa's as all panels are fiberglass (Doors,Boot,Roof,Wings etc etc) and i just couldent live with the lines the panels made and the ruffness off them.

But I thought you were building it so that you could do a 10 sec 1/4 mile?

STEvieXE

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21st Jan 07 at 22:20

steel panels on a corsa dont weigh hardly anything really anyway.

bonnet would be the heaviest but like if the weight is that much of a prob to u remove it for spec occassions, much better option imo than a f/glass piece of rubish which ull spend a day fittin nice, then the next thing is around the hinges cracks etc etc etc. f/glass is rubbish

Martin_C

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21st Jan 07 at 22:20

just buy as many lightweight panels as you can, you're always going on about being so light, so dont poof out, just paint the panels that are needed, imagine all the extra weight of painting the full shell.

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21st Jan 07 at 22:22

the shell needs painting regardless

Carl

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21st Jan 07 at 22:22

JR, i think you need to clearly identify the direction/ what you want to use your car for, then decide accordingly. PErsonally it looks good as is, wouldn't waste any money making it look poo for the sleeper look etc.

Martin_C

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21st Jan 07 at 22:23

f/g boot, doors, wings, bonnet, poly windows, paint it a nice colour, nothing lairy, drilling holes wont make a difference imo, nothing substantial.

BeArDy

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21st Jan 07 at 22:24

quote:
Originally posted by Matt H

quote:
Originally posted by BeArDy

I looked into it for the twin engine corsa and went to look at BAT motorsports Corsa's as all panels are fiberglass (Doors,Boot,Roof,Wings etc etc) and i just couldent live with the lines the panels made and the ruffness off them.

But I thought you were building it so that you could do a 10 sec 1/4 mile?

I am BUT i wanted it to be very clean and still look like a factory car. Plus weight isent really a problems (as i would not of gone for 2 engines

) It was just somthing i looked into as i have booked myself onto a carbon fiber panel making course in april so i have the option to make them.

I just could not live with the gaps the panels give, Plus the bowing at high speeds (if the doors bow out at 80mph imagine what they will do when i go for 180mph+)

i think the picture below says it all, Fiberglass doors

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21st Jan 07 at 22:24

quote:
Originally posted by Carl
JR, i think you need to clearly identify the direction/ what you want to use your car for, then decide accordingly. PErsonally it looks good as is, wouldn't waste any money making it look poo for the sleeper look etc.

to go very fast, whilst beeing built to a highstandard, thats the direction, i just dont know how to carry the plan out as yet

Joe

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21st Jan 07 at 22:25

I like the clean and tidy slag look. Don't make it look scruffy just so you can brag about having a 'sleeper' and I don't think you'd be happy with panel gaps everywhere. Just sort an engine out for it, get rid of anything else you can and enjoy it. Maybe even drive it now and again.

Ant

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21st Jan 07 at 22:25

I didnt know the boot was light I will prob do bonnet and windows on mine, anyone any pic of bits you can drill / remove on the boot.

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21st Jan 07 at 22:26

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Originally posted by joe6886
I like the clean and tidy slag look. Don't make it look scruffy just so you can brag about having a 'sleeper' and I don't think you'd be happy with panel gaps everywhere. Just sort an engine out for it, get rid of anything else you can and enjoy it. Maybe even drive it now and again.

last bit is the ultimate plan

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