Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
time to get the head off then....
does it turn over well?
Tried by hand, and it doesn't turn over at all, just sounds like it's hitting something 
About the head, can you get hold of a C16XE head? 
And do you offer head work?
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Originally posted by Rob_Lee
Also worth investing in some nice SBD rollers and GM tensioners.
I bent 4 valves on mine when i rebuilt the head... i miss timed it by i few teeth!
PS... if you need to borrow my cam locking tool then let me know and ill post it to you.
Trust me its worth having one if you havent got one!
Rob
Will be purchasing SBD rollers, cams & veriners before being built up.
As for the Cam locking tool, my mate is doing the work and has all the necessary tools, thanks anyway, appreciate that.
What is needed for re-building a head? new valves stem seals, skimming? What else?
Are new valves, valve springs etc necessary?
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Scotty C
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Erm. Took the head off, and There was a bolt sitting on top of pistion no.3 
So nothing has gone wrong with it, just a bolt has got in there some how.
Now, I have damage to pistion no.3, thread marks and dents all in it and on the head, do I need to replace the pistion?
If so, Do I replace 1 or all 4?
I'd like to know where this bolt has come from
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Dean_W
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Bloody hell. Gutted for you mate.
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Scotty C
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Yes. Really pissed me off. I've lost about a pint of blood gettin the pissing thing off.
Can you just replace one pistion?
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Dean_W
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I'd think if you replaced the one, you'd need to change the rings on the others too. Don't bet on that though.
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Scotty C
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Already done that 2000 miles ago.
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Scotty C
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I'm seriuosly considering putting a valver in it.
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Toby
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no be different you have been just inlucky go for some TB's if anything on this engine
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C4RL0
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quote:
Originally posted by Monster
I'm seriuosly considering putting a valver in it.
my 1600 blew up, so i put a LET in. Not once have I regreted it 
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Scotty C
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I want to tune my smallblock though.
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Robin
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Any pics of the offending item?
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Scotty C
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Yes but I can't get them onto the laptop. Just had a look at my head, head is scrap, two bent valves. £193 for ONE pistion too. Happy days.
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Robin
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£193 per piston? 
You could get nice light forged ones for what 3 would cost you.
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andyc1234
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im still intereseted in said bolt
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Dave A
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need some pics of this mate!
things I would check it wether the bores are damaged at all. if so then its new block time as well. I would just get a 2nd hand piston and reuse the rings if they are ok.
as for a head, I have a freshly rebuilt C16XE head that has been ported and polished and has had:
New valves
New Guides
New stem seals
New followers
Freshly skimmed and pressure tested
U2U me if you want it. Im sure someone on here will have a spare piston, maybe Broster?
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andyc1234
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not the piston that exited the block
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Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
£193 per piston?
You could get nice light forged ones for what 3 would cost you.
Yup per pistion! Bloody rip off. I thought forged pistions would be less than that
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Originally posted by Dave A
need some pics of this mate!
things I would check it wether the bores are damaged at all. if so then its new block time as well. I would just get a 2nd hand piston and reuse the rings if they are ok.
as for a head, I have a freshly rebuilt C16XE head that has been ported and polished and has had:
New valves
New Guides
New stem seals
New followers
Freshly skimmed and pressure tested
U2U me if you want it. Im sure someone on here will have a spare piston, maybe Broster?
Will get Pics up Monday if my brother comes round with the camera.
I did have a quick look at the bore, and it looks fine. No unplesent grinding noises when being turned over.
As for the head, I've already sourced one a few days back.
Am I right in thinking the C16xe doesn't use a EGR valve? if so, do I need a C16xe lower inlet manifold?
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ainsley_brader
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no use x16xe lower inlet with egr blanked off
how bad is the piston damaged?
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Scotty C
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So just leave the EGR in place, but don't connect it up? or get a proper blanking plate?
Pistion damage is quite bad, the grooves on the pistion in the shape of half a valve has all been dis-shaped.
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Scotty C
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Sorry for the shit pics, but you get the idea -
New pistion needed?
Blocked breather
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Scotty C
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no-one know if I need a new pistion?
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mattievRS
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You have no luck with this do you mate!!I think the piston should be ok but to be sure it would need to be compression tested.If im wrong im sure someone will rip me to shreds!!
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Scotty C
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No I don't!
Think I might just replace it anyway.
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Robin
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buy a new (second hand) bottom end.
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Scotty C
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I'm not going to spend that much, i'll never be on the road. I'll just get a second hand pistion.
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