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Goodie_06
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23rd Mar 07 at 01:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Colin
Get your mate to remove the head from the block, then take it to your nearest motor engineering place. They will check it & do the required work (with the mileage on your engine it might be worthwhile to do valve oil seals or guides aswell they will tell you) then take ot back to your mate & get him to refit with a new gasket.

Coolant - just top it up. check for any air locks while doing so.

You'll need oil & filter doing aswell at same time.


The oil was and filter was done about 2 months ago, will it still need doing due to water being in the oil?
Scotty C
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23rd Mar 07 at 01:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You get valve stem seals in a head gasket kit anyway, so you may aswell replace them.
Colin
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Originally posted by Goodie_06

The oil was and filter was done about 2 months ago, will it still need doing due to water being in the oil?


Well you'll need to drop the oil before taking the head off as the oilways will still be full. Typically when doing a headgasket you want to fill with fresh oil & filter upon fitting, do a couple hundred miles run in then drop the oil again & fit another filter & fresh oil.
Colin
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Originally posted by Monster
You get valve stem seals in a head gasket kit anyway, so you may aswell replace them.


If buying a kit, which going with what he said his mate as just fitting a new gasket.
Scotty C
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But u'll need need a new inlet, exhaust, head (obvioulsy) and rocker cover gasket. So you may aswell get the kit
Colin
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Originally posted by Monster
But u'll need need a new inlet, exhaust, head (obvioulsy) and rocker cover gasket. So you may aswell get the kit


depends how its done, ive seen folk lift the head off with manfolds etc attached, lift it enough to switch gasket then bolt it back on again!! A mate used to do this in practice in a VW dealership!!
Goodie_06
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-ASTRA-TIGRA-CORSA-1-4-HEAD-GASKET-SET-BOLTS_W0QQitemZ130092136696QQcategoryZ10404QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Up to the job?
Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by Colin
quote:
Originally posted by Monster
But u'll need need a new inlet, exhaust, head (obvioulsy) and rocker cover gasket. So you may aswell get the kit


depends how its done, ive seen folk lift the head off with manfolds etc attached, lift it enough to switch gasket then bolt it back on again!! A mate used to do this in practice in a VW dealership!!


Talk about saving money
Scotty C
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quote:
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-ASTRA-TIGRA-CORSA-1-4-HEAD-GASKET-SET-BOLTS_W0QQitemZ130092136696QQcategoryZ10404QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Up to the job?


No, get GM parts.
Colin
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'top quality cylinder head gasket '

Doesnt actually say what make it is, seems rather cheap.
Goodie_06
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How much is a GM set??
Scotty C
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How much is a GM set??


£70-80.
Goodie_06
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and that will include everything i need for it?
Scotty C
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Yup all the gasket that you need. including head bolts and valve stem seals.
Colin
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and that will include everything i need for it?


Everything apart from head stretch bolts, you need 10 of them. not sure if that engine uses hydraulic valve tappets too.....they may be worth doing
Scotty C
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23rd Mar 07 at 01:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The GM headgasket kit includes head bolts.
Colin
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Originally posted by Monster
The GM headgasket kit includes head bolts.


DOH never had to buy one
Scotty C
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23rd Mar 07 at 01:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I've bought three
Colin
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Its about the only thing that didnt go on my GSi
Goodie_06
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Cheers Guys
Colin
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quote:
Originally posted by Goodie_06
Cheers Guys


You know what you need to do now Jah??
Jimbo
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Ok guys, it went today when i got to a mates house. pissed water everywhere

Goodie_06 car.

[Edited on 23-03-2007 by Jimbo]
Goodie_06
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Indeed it did. Got another head of a X14XE and just gunna by a GM gasket set.
burgess
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x14xe's always tend to go on no'4 cylinder between the cylinder and water jacket
It will be worth while removing the egr valve and idle control valve and giving them a good clean out while its all off too
Done loads now and find there are a few extra gaskets and bits you will need
ie the throttle body gasket
worth changing the thermostat + gasket
also make sure the fan cuts in when its rebuilt as this could have caused the gasket to go in the first place if the temp switch is faulty for the fan
and lasty the head bolts are
25nm then 90' 90' 90' 45'
starting in the middle working clockwise out to the ends

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