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g-man
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quote:
Originally posted by Cupra Steve
TBH Why not just get a VTS?


Because an AX with a VTS engine is quicker. And a VTS looks like a VTS whereas an AX with a VTS engine does not. Comprende?
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That Ax definately goes well
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quote:
Originally posted by g-man
quote:
Originally posted by Cupra Steve
TBH Why not just get a VTS?


Because an AX with a VTS engine is quicker. And a VTS looks like a VTS whereas an AX with a VTS engine does not. Comprende?


Plus, I can get a non-running AX for £50-£100 + £150-200 for VTS engine

Faster than a VTS and the ultimate sleeper for £300

If you can show me a VTS for £300 then please do so, Steven.
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quote:
Originally posted by Cupra Steve
TBH Why not just get a VTS?


and "The best ever post of the year award" goes to...
Mark330d
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ax's are more reliable than corsa's fact.

My corsa had been sat for 2 weeks not touched, Went to start it to get it on the recovery truck and it was dead.

Brothers citreon ax runabout had been sat for 3 months untouched an started first turn of the key. :@
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Will a VTS engine go in one of those without too much hassle then?

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Dione J
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ax's are more reliable than corsa's fact.

My corsa had been sat for 2 weeks not touched, Went to start it to get it on the recovery truck and it was dead.

Brothers citreon ax runabout had been sat for 3 months untouched an started first turn of the key. :@


That dont mean they are more reliable. I've had both car's & I had endless problems with my AX before I sold it and got my Metro GTi which wasn't much better to be honest.

But guess It's all down to what condition both cars are in I guess
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quote:
Originally posted by Mark330d
ax's are more reliable than corsa's fact.

My corsa had been sat for 2 weeks not touched, Went to start it to get it on the recovery truck and it was dead.

Brothers citreon ax runabout had been sat for 3 months untouched an started first turn of the key. :@


How true about the AX, I got one for £40 last year, sat in a field for 2 years, all mouldy , started soon enough
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Originally posted by Cupra Steve
TBH Why not just get a VTS?


and "The best ever post of the year award" goes to...
Cupra Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by g-man
quote:
Originally posted by Cupra Steve
TBH Why not just get a VTS?


Because an AX with a VTS engine is quicker. And a VTS looks like a VTS whereas an AX with a VTS engine does not. Comprende?


Plus, I can get a non-running AX for £50-£100 + £150-200 for VTS engine

Faster than a VTS and the ultimate sleeper for £300

If you can show me a VTS for £300 then please do so, Steven.


That is a fair point, never thought of that!

I doubt a AX 16v will be much quicker.
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quote:
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I doubt a AX 16v will be much quicker.


It is. HTH.
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A 16v AX would be around 200kg's lighter than a Saxo VTS.
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How much does a AX GT weigh?
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Power to weight would be roughly 110bhp per tonne I reckon.
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quote:
Originally posted by Cupra Steve
How much does a AX GT weigh?


Something stupid like 750kg IIRC

[Edited on 25-05-2007 by Monster]
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Power to weight would be roughly 110bhp per tonne I reckon.


Ax with a VTS lump? and the rest!
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I looked up the weight of an AX and it said 1,100KG. VTS engines are only 120bhp.

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quote:
Originally posted by Cupra Steve
How much does a AX GT weigh?


Something stupid like 750kg IIRC

[Edited on 25-05-2007 by Monster]


so ad a 16v lump and it will weigh the same as a vts, how will it be any quicker?
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quote:
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so ad a 16v lump and it will weigh the same as a vts, how will it be any quicker?


Do you know anything? About anything?
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apart from owning a S1 106 which is a AX, and a 106 GTI that is essentially a VTS no i know nothing.
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ax weighs about 3/4 the weight of a saxo, s1 106 is almost the same as an s2 106 steve
add in the fact im sure most people are more comfortable rippin the insides and grinding unnecesary weight out of a £300 ax as opposed to a £2k saxo....
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quote:
Originally posted by Cupra Steve
pointless drively shite
no i know nothing.


Glad we're in agreement.


[Edited on 25-05-2007 by g-man]
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Well the 106 and AX are the same???

All i'm saying is a std 16v ax vs VTS / GTI will be very similar paced.

An AX will weigh less as they all had smaller engines.

I understand though that it can be done cheaply but i think there are better options.

If you get a 1.0 AX your going to have to upgrade everything to VTS spec atleast, which won't be cheap, and for the hassle of it you can get VTS's for £1500. You'll spend more than that making 16v AX.
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quote:
Originally posted by Cupra Steve
TBH Why not just get a VTS?

You truely are a total fud. He has done it because it is fun! You keep saying a you want a astra or corsa turbo, thats like me saying to you why not get a calibra turbo? Dick
Cupra Steve
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No it isn't you fucking retard. One is a hot hatch that never came with a LET, the other is a 4x4 coupe.

An AX is effectively a Saxo. Saxo is just reshelled.

So no you are totally wrong.


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