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John G
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10th Jul 07 at 22:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

good pointers icy, amazing how so many people dont know how to wash a car
Rob B
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But you said to use a sponge John ?
John G
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob B
DONT USE A SPONGE, use a microfibre sponge or mitt, you will ruin your paint and add swirls with a sponge..

Also do not use a chamois, use a drying towel cause again you will add swirls to your paint with a chamois.

hope this helps.


you could go on for ever rob, as long as your not a dick and dont cloths sponges on floor then use then you shud be fine, all this microfibre cloth bollox is all for detailing, yes they prob are better but you make it sound like sponged and chamois are like rubbin grip on ya car
Rob B
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they are like rubbing grit on your car
Robin
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quote:
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good pointers icy, amazing how so many people dont know how to wash a car


I know how to wash a car, I'm just unfamiliar with polish and wax as I never bothered with any of my other cars
John G
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quote:
Originally posted by John G
good pointers icy, amazing how so many people dont know how to wash a car


I know how to wash a car, I'm just unfamiliar with polish and wax as I never bothered with any of my other cars


that wasnt a dig at you i mean in general, u see alsorts of people doin it strange ways when driving around
John G
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quote:
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they are like rubbing grit on your car


ok
Rob B
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quote:
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they are like rubbing grit on your car


ok


Ok dont believe me , but a sponge traps grit so the whole time your rubbing it into your car, microfibre sponge does the opposite.
Rob B
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10th Jul 07 at 22:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4637

Read that, you will never use a sponge again.
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I used the Megs mit and thought it was absolute pony.
22B
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Thats a bit OTT for washing a car, Ive never had a problem with a normal sponge, one bucket of hot soapy water, and then take it for a run to dry it off, then normally give it a wax or polish, aint got no swirls on my paintwork, but thats just my opinion

[Edited on 10-07-2007 by 22B]
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Originally posted by Robin
I've got a hose

I'm totally going to fuck this up, I can tell

I'll end up with 4 shiny panels and the rest will be pink




^^ had me creased!

pics after the wash please!
Rob B
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I bet you do have swirls.
John G
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob B
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4637

Read that, you will never use a sponge again.


Note: While washmitts are considerbaly better than sponges, it is impossible to completely avoid inflicting the odd swirl marks here and there using a wash mitt. What follows in this thread are tips on how to keep these inflicted swirls to an absolute minimum.

so its hardly bomb prove just decreases chances! you could go on for ever although i do see your point
Rob B
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yeah its never going to be bomb proff, but for a fiver, i know which id rather use
John G
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tbh iv never looked into them, but i may just try one.
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Well my method takes to long but ill say it anyway!

It does seem pointless but with new paint i dislike taking risks with swirls.

I may add as much as you spend you'll still swirl your paint. But just not as much as other products / methods.

Anyway

my quick tip would be - don't use a wash and wax if you plan on polishing etc, since you will remove the wax based compound within it while you clay etc. Just use a simple shampoo or paint con

Hose the car down fully including behind alloys etc.
Shampoo the car, roof + windows.
Hose down again.
Re-do the roof + bonnet leaving the windows, working your way down to the skirts.
Hose off again
Using a turtle wax water remover (sqwidgy sp?) to remove the larger parts of water followed by a magnet drying towel (tap dry)
Takes alot longer to tap dry but a leather can still mark your paint.

Once its dry you can do a number of methods depending how bad the paint is.

If its not be cleaned in a while use a clay if it has move onto the polish.

Apply with the polish applicators and only to areas with fine marks or swirls.
Buff of lightly with microfiber polishing cloths.
Next moving on to the wax, wax on wax off just make sure the wax isn't to thick otherwise it can scratch the car a nice fine layer and removed without presure.
Gloss guard finish, to seal the wax and polish onto the paint.

Currently spent over £400 in 2months on cleaning products to see what works best and on freshpaint i've started using various methods to get a decent result.

Items used

2 microfiber washing mitts from turtle wax one to clean the car and one to clean the alloys + exhaust.

Applicator pads for alloys + wax + polish for best results.

Microfiber cloths to remove wax etc

Wheels brushes, metal cleaner and applicant pads.

2 buckets and a hose pipe + yourself.

I believe thats about right anyway.

it's not so much about the products that you use like wax, gloss etc but also about how they are applied and removed (using the correct pads etc)

Takes time to get right but it now only takes me 3hours to clean my car rather than 5 lol.

[Edited on 11-07-2007 by xtremewheels]
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11th Jul 07 at 01:29   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

3 hours is longer than I was expecting to be spending doing mine, let alone 5
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quote:
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3 hours is longer than I was expecting to be spending doing mine, let alone 5


lol, well it takes awhile unless you hire randomers to help
Ste L
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my washng of a car involves...

1 bucket, 1 sponge, and shampoo..

wash car, rinse, then drive to dry it off


as you can tell, i dont like washing car's
probably only gets this every few months
Joe
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How does the microfibre thing not trap dirt in it? I'm still a fan of the bucket and sponge method, this detailing bandwagon thing thats going on at the minute is a bit ott for me.
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I sooooooo can't be assed spendin hours washin my car. It's dirty again by the next day, what's the point?
Joe
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I can be arsed washing it, just can't be arsed with all this 2 buckets and frigging about with mittens and shit.
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Done mine at the weekend. Washed, waxed, and cleaned the interior. Took the best part of 4 hours. I always use a sponge and never had any problems. Just keep the sponge away from the floor and stuff.

[Edited on 11-07-2007 by Nath]
Marshall
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get a pressure washer, even if its only a diddy one. Great for doing arches e.t.c

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