Fad
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Lexmaul gives moe power across the rev range bt after seeing the effcts of both (JR has had both on his car) I always felt the car with the Mantzel was quicker.
Mantzel
264 cams
Raised rev limit to 7500
car will be quick enough to trouble 20XE's
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GavCorsa
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Registered: 13th Feb 06
Location: Grantham, Lincs Drives: bmw 323i coupe
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Dbilas for me as i have 1 and am very pleased with results after fitting it
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davcohen
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Registered: 1st Nov 03
Location: North London
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now to add how about the copies that were sold which do they best compare to
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Olsrey
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Registered: 13th Jan 07
Location: Bradford Drives: LET Vectra B
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My EML doesnt come on because of my Dbilas  .
[Edited on 20-08-2007 by Olsrey]
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matt_aka_smiler
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My dbilas has an EGR feed and the EML doesnt come on
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davcohen
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isnt there a way of fixing the EML light apart from removing the bulb behind the dash lol
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jazzer2k3
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I am the proud owner of a Corsa GSi equiped with a DBilas and tbh its a great bit of kit, my car made 141bhp 
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Steve X16XE
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Dunno what has been said but i have a Mantzel and i am very impressed with it. At the end of next week i'm going back to Vsport to have another go on the rollers to see how much it's increased.
And my EML came on as soon as i remove that SAI crap.
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csweatherston
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Registered: 16th Jan 06
Location: Devon
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i have no EML anymore.....
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Dean_W
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Location: Downham Market, Norfolk
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quote:
Originally posted by gianluigi
mantzels are going for £200 new
Where are you buying them from 
There nearer £500.
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gianluigi
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quote:
Originally posted by Dean_W
quote:
Originally posted by gianluigi
mantzels are going for £200 new
Where are you buying them from
There nearer £500.
Dunno TBF. Robin told me. Doubt its proper mantzels, more the home made ebay types lol....but same sort of thing though isn't it.
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Dave A
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neither. save an extra £1500 and get Tb's and some proper management.
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Olsrey
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Was wondering how long it would take Dave to come in 
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Dave A
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otherwise, id have the dbilas. better fitting kit than the mantzel.
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SAL
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Location: Radlett, Hertfordshire
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i would have the lexmaul over both IMO
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Olsrey
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Im happy with the dbilas
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SAL
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there all good in their own ways, i found with a manzel it started to pull the revs @ about 5k right through to the limiter, the lexmaul gave a bit of power between 4250 and 6000, after that the power decreased very quick. i think the dblias works the same way as a manzel ?
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gavin18787
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Registered: 22nd Feb 05
Location: Basildon, Essex
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So mantzel and dbalis will both be the same and the lexmul will give the wider power band.
Might consider some cams as well but that would be pushing the power even further up the revs which im not sure if thats what I really want to do.
Cant really warrent tb's as its my everyday car
Drives supercharged Tec with torque  
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gavin18787
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Registered: 22nd Feb 05
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Mantzel has come up for sale so I think im going to go for one of them
What they worth?
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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Dave A
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£250 if they come with all the bits.
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Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by Stavs
there all good in their own ways, i found with a manzel it started to pull the revs @ about 5k right through to the limiter, the lexmaul gave a bit of power between 4250 and 6000, after that the power decreased very quick. i think the dblias works the same way as a manzel ?
So you get 1750rpm of power?
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Dave A
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good point monster.
exact reason a 150 bhp 1.6 on tb's would be so much faster than a 150 bhp 1.6 with an inlet and mapping.
I reckon that you would need at least 180 bhp (not possible) from an x16xe with an inlet for it to be anywhere close to an x16xe with 150 bhp on tb's.
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gavin18787
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Registered: 22nd Feb 05
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Although tbs arnt for everyday use though are they?
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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Steve X16XE
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Registered: 31st Dec 06
Location: Barnsley, South Yorkshire
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If they are set up right they can be.
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matt_aka_smiler
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Id love to have tbs but its the cost 
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