AK
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Take it that was for Blebo?
Anyway... I've owned 3 fiats, and had 1 as a hire car.... and own an Alfa.
I loved them all (hire car and alfa aside) and they have all been probably to most reliable cars i've owned.
[Edited on 10-11-2007 by AK]
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mattk
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yeah ive read lots of good things about the JTD engine I suppose its going to have a warrenty anyway
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Kurt
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quote: Originally posted by blebo
1.4 t jet is 120bhp
1.9 is 130bhp plus loads more torque and you still get 40ish miles to the gallon
All sporting's have the bluetooth so don't think that one is better than the other.
Mines is a 56 plate just make sure its had the brakes replaced with the moddified pads and the rear discs have had dampners fitted or they will squeal like a bitch
p.s mines a 56 plate and its done 13K miles, its that much fun to drive
petrol has more potential though imo and theres meant to be a kit to push them up to 150bhp
also keep an eye out for grande abarths, 2.0 240bhp
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AlunJ
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tempted to get a grande punto myself, my mate bought one and when he told me i thought "u bought a fiat? why?" lol but i really like it, hadn't looked at the derv models. Anyone know what is reliability like, cos thts the only thing putting me off
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Kurt
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cant say ive seen many in other than for servicing
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big eck
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I think they look superb,kinda like a mini maserati from the front
The WRC version looks soooooooo hard as well
[Edited on 10-11-2007 by big eck]
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Kurt
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theres some nice stuff that ms designs are doing aswell for them
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andy1868
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the WRC version would get it
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blebo
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quote: Originally posted by mattk
how many track days you done?
Reliability is the issue really, My dad has a doblo JTD its on 130k ans still perfect, not been serviced for 40k
I've done 2 full day trackdays and I am down for a third.
Relaibilty isn't an issue, the JTD engines are designed for over 200bhp so are working in there comfort zone at 130 - 170 bhp.
The only real problem was that the Grande Punto was launched quite quick after it was designed with limited testing as Fiat was starting to struggle slightly finacially. So a lot of the issues were descovered on road.
These appear to have been resolved now, the main ones were;
Steering rack - early modles started to rattle and fail - new models fitted with upgraded ones, older models replaced
Brake pads - As mentioned before these would squeal - new brake pads fitted
Apart from that nothing else, I have the Sporting and the missus has the 1.4 8v Active sport. No real issues, other than the missus car failed to start one morning but it turned out to be that the battery terminal had came loose (or was never tightened).
If you are looking at a 56 plate all the "Teething" issues have been resolved so no real issues.
I'll admit that in the past FIAT have had a bad name in the past but they have sold the most cars in europe for the last two or three years so they must be doing something right now
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mattk
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well ive made my mind up now, this is what im getting, just got to go and sort all the money side out tomorrow at the bank, then who knows, may have one in a few weeks
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richc
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quote: Originally posted by Dave A
quote: Originally posted by blebo
It scares a few subarus at track days as well
what type of subarus?
Justy
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blebo
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quote: Originally posted by richc
quote: Originally posted by Dave A
quote: Originally posted by blebo
It scares a few subarus at track days as well
what type of subarus?
Justy
If you bothered to read the rest of the post you would have seen that witty remark has already been made
My Post was also proven and justified a few posts afterwards too
[Edited on 11-11-2007 by blebo]
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mattk
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how much are services ect and when are they due?
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blebo
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18,000 miles.
Not had a service yet, but its deasil so first few are just oil and filters
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mattk
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so only about 300 quid then
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blebo
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I'm sure youve got a friend at a vat reg garage that can stamp the book for you
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mattk
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yeah the garage at the top of our street does it, its if they use geniune parts isnt it?
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CR7
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quote: Originally posted by blebo
It scares a few subarus at track days as well
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blebo
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quote: Originally posted by mattk
yeah the garage at the top of our street does it, its if they use geniune parts isnt it?
Yes, Missus has had her car service, cost 30 for parts; Oil, Filter & spark plugs and £20 fo rthe mechanic
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blebo
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quote: Originally posted by CR7
quote: Originally posted by blebo
It scares a few subarus at track days as well
Why can't people read the rest of the thread first, its true.
Half the people on here must be retarded and lose intrest after 4 posts
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mattk
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thats belting how much did the map cost for it, i rekon that will be getting done a few weeks into ownership
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richc
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quote: Originally posted by blebo
quote: Originally posted by richc
quote: Originally posted by Dave A
quote: Originally posted by blebo
It scares a few subarus at track days as well
what type of subarus?
Justy
If you bothered to read the rest of the post you would have seen that witty remark has already been made
My Post was also proven and justified a few posts afterwards too
[Edited on 11-11-2007 by blebo]
I did read the rest, and i thort i would add the the list that was given. dont see why you had to u2u me the thread
anways, the car, yes the JTD's are a cracker, very nippy. My friend has a 57 plate one in red, 1.4 with the 6 speed box. Nice car to look at, i just feel the dash is a little cheap, otherwise sound enough car.
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mattk
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thats what I wanted to ask, are all the 1.9 JTD`s six speed?
Any forums i can reasearch on?
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blebo
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quote: Originally posted by mattk
thats what I wanted to ask, are all the 1.9 JTD`s six speed?
Any forums i can reasearch on?
1. Yes
2. www.Fiatforum.com
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blebo
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quote: Originally posted by mattk
thats belting how much did the map cost for it, i rekon that will be getting done a few weeks into ownership
Angel tunning do it for £350ish thats 170bhp
Celtic do a remap that takes it 190bhp but the concensis is that puts to much pressure on the clutch
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