dazavich
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Gordon has been consistantly top class since he broke into the Hearts team, resulting in the 9m fee paid for him
For the above reason.
I think Carson & Foster are excellent keepers and may well become better than Gordon but he's been awesome for about 4 years now
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Originally posted by dazavich
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Gordon has been consistantly top class since he broke into the Hearts team, resulting in the 9m fee paid for him
For the above reason.
I think Carson & Foster are excellent keepers and may well become better than Gordon but he's been awesome for about 4 years now
So he has been top class in a second rate league  Where as Carson (and Foster) have played for longer in the Premiership, and the Championship which is around the level of the SPL.
And as for value...already mentioned Carson is going to break that record in a month.
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Here's one for you Cosmo.
Hutton over G.Neville?
I havent seen enough of Hutton, but on his day I dont think he'd be better than Neville. But I think Neville's days are up 
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dazavich
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Neville is finished, was the best for some time but i very much doubt he'll get to that level again.
Richards is one of my favourite players but i'm Rangers fan 
I honestly believe Hutton is as good as Micah Richards
Both are fast, strong, good defensively and good going forward
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Nath
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I sense some happiness in your post.
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dazavich
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Gordon has been consistantly top class since he broke into the Hearts team, resulting in the 9m fee paid for him
For the above reason.
I think Carson & Foster are excellent keepers and may well become better than Gordon but he's been awesome for about 4 years now
So he has been top class in a second rate league Where as Carson (and Foster) have played for longer in the Premiership, and the Championship which is around the level of the SPL.
And as for value...already mentioned Carson is going to break that record in a month.
You still have to save them cosmo.
Like i said its my opinion
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You still have to save them cosmo.
Like i said its my opinion
Yeah but when the teams you're playing against are second rate, with second rate players (which is what the SPL is) then the shots arent exactly that hard to save.
I mean half the SPL is probably about League One standard, and the other half are Championship so its not like he was playing against decent forwards.
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League One standard in fact i'm not even going to get into the speel about what happens when Scottish teams meet English ones, just
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They are one off games Hammer, you only have to compare how far English clubs get in those competitions compared to Scottish clubs to show that over a few games they are the much much much better teams.
I suppose possibly Celtic and Rangers would be in the Prem, but thats about it, rest are shocking sides at best.
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Totally disagree with you cosmo, he was up against the best footballers in scotland, not amazing players but they know where the goal is ffs
Obviously i've saw Gordon more than Carson & Foster so that would sway my decision towards him.
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Totally disagree with you cosmo, he was up against the best footballers in scotland, not amazing players but they know where the goal is ffs
Obviously i've saw Gordon more than Carson & Foster so that would sway my decision towards him.
Yeah, but that is like saying thE Turkish keeper who we put 8 past for Besiktas is the best in his league. He can do well against the crappy players who he comes up against and probably shines through as a good kepper, but then come up against top class forwards and he has a howler and lets 8 in.
BTW- Im not saying Gordon is that bad
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They are one off games Hammer, you only have to compare how far English clubs get in those competitions compared to Scottish clubs to show that over a few games they are the much much much better teams.
I suppose possibly Celtic and Rangers would be in the Prem, but thats about it, rest are shocking sides at best.
Scott McDonald just came from Motherwell, he's our top striker and he's been doing it in Europe and scored the winner against Milan. We also have Caldwell, Wilson and Scott Brown.
Rangers have Thomson, Whittaker, McCulloch, Webster, Weir and probably a few others that started out at 'league one' standard and they've already beat Lyon and Stuttgart.
If you took the best League 1 players you're not going to assemble a team even close to being capable of doing that.
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What did I just say about Celtic and Rangers....!!?
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Imagine if this was done years ago, Giggs on the wing surrounded by players of equal quality 
Gordon isn't that spectacular, well he hasn't been for Sunderland.
I wouldn't start with Owen either.
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What did I just say about Celtic and Rangers....!!?
Half our teams are assembled from the rest of the SPL though
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What did I just say about Celtic and Rangers....!!?
Half our teams are assembled from the rest of the SPL though
Obviously the ones who are better than the shocking quality of the rest of the teams. Much like how players get bought by Prem clubs from lower league sides, etc.
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Shite idea
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i bet the english and croatians have come to a deal where its a draw on the sly
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Nath
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Like when Denmark and Sweden got Italy knocked out of Euro04 with the only result that'd meant they both went through
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oops posted in the wrong thread 
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Carson is clearly better than Gordon I'd rather have Alan McGregor than any England keeper.
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Nath
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Better
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stupid idea imo, like hammer said english player would make up 90% of the squad
why, England are not that great and only 2 places above scotland in the fifa rankings. but the reason there is no UK team is national pride. no one out side of England would give a crap
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stupid idea imo, like hammer said english player would make up 90% of the squad
why, England are not that great and only 2 places above scotland in the fifa rankings. but the reason there is no UK team is national pride. no one out side of England would give a crap
Who from Scotland would play?
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I can only imagine that Gordon would be the only Scottish starter. But I would expect Hutton, Ferguson and McFadden to be in the squad.
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