Scotty C
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Like you said, you cant blame me for asking about the 1.4. I bet shes a animal!
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Steve
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Dave-Creations
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for a 1.4 she is fast, my mate who is used to driving his redtop nova, and mk3 astra estate who did the conversion said for a 1.4 she is a rocket. believe what u like, i couldnt give 2 fucks man.
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jr
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my 1.4 only spun one wheel in the wet at maximum attack style of driving, and that was the most tuned 1.4 on here bar keith pipers old ballastic race car
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Dave-Creations
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this was only 1 wheel - passanger side
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jr
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anyway, you cant fit traction control unless you going to use some clever form of picking up a signal from a speed/abs sensort, and using that data to cut the igniton or something similar, or use aftermarket managment with the ability to run traction control, and run it off that
[Edited on 05-01-2008 by jr]
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Dave-Creations
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ok, no bothers, thanks for the info on the tc, just what i needed. how was it done in the gsi astra then?? surely that was just some sort of sensor connected to some sort of ecu???
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jr
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i dont really know, but id imagine it works of a ABS/speed sensor on the back of the hub
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AK
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are you saying it span in 3rd .... in the wet .... at standstill.... doing a burn out....
aye. 
Plus... a x14xe will not run with a x16xe ecu....
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Dave-Creations
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it was pullin away by 3rd, as it was twitchin in 2nd, didnt last long at all. and yes it will run 1.6xe ecu as mine is as it is. how can i prove it??
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AK
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i can prove it....
mine didnt
So... its not really spinning into 3rd is it..... Thats you 'driving' it like a pleb to MAKE it spin.... you can prob get a metro to do that....
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Scotty C
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How can u make a x14 spin in 3rd? 
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Dave-Creations
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i was on about provin the ecu is 1.6, is there a code on there or what?
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tom_simes
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Are you sure the engine isn't an X16XE itself?
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Dave-Creations
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no, its definatly 1.4, local opel garage confirmed when they filled in the engineers report form for insurance, and vehicle assesors said 1.4 aswel
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AK
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i have to laugh at this thread
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Dave-Creations
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you know, just delete this fucking thread, its pointless tryin to post a question on here, you only ever get flamed. its fucking pathetic. DELETE THIS THREAD
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Scotty C
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Delete it yourself 
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Dom
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if the XE Ecu (im guessing it's an aftermarket ecu or aftermarket TC, like Racelogic etc) has traction control then i would guess that like jr said you would need abs for the abs sensor. And fitting abs would be a pain in the arse.
But i didn't realise XE ecu's came with TC as standard? 
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AK
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they dont....
x16xe ecu's wont run x14xe's
x14xe's with naff all power 'mods' will NOT spin in 3rd with out provication.
FACT
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sand-eel
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It might spin in the wet with a high steering angle and standard wheels.
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Ian
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You need ABS wheel speed sensors and an appropriate ECU, which I think you'll find on later XE cars but I might be wrong there. Can't remember whether mk3 Astra GSi had it, but you'll need a car early enough to get a redtop and not ecotec. Don't know.
I think driving properly is a better idea though. If you can break traction doing a rolling burnout then really, you need to think about whether this is the most effective way to get places.
The facts are - your 1400 spins because you're making it do so. It has no more power than every other 1400 out there because you've done nothing to give it more power. Your car isn't special, it isn't magic and if you think you can install a valver and continue to drive like that then I'll await your post telling us all that you've bent it.
Personally my advice would be proper tyres and limited slip diff. Less messing, actually more effective at getting the power down which actually gives you a faster car, not just some pub speak about what you can manage under very specific conditions.
If you want to lend the car to people, ask them to drive how you are going to - properly.
[Edited on 06-01-2008 by Ian]
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Steve
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my mates mk3 astra gsi had tc
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Ian
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Well there is your answer Dave, you can thank Steve later.
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IvIarkgraham
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mine has span in 3rd once
14" steelies
really bad rain
foot planted to floor
it didnt spin long
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