carribicbaby
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fookin hell that is foookin big lol
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WATSON
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Isnt that big  only looks large due to the massive trumpet attached to it 
And like steve have seen bigger 
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lil_g
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Originally posted by VXR
Still, look forward to progress of it, just for the insanity.
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harrisp
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Registered: 15th Dec 07
Location: Derbyshire
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Talk about turbo lag.
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k e l
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Registered: 10th Dec 06
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who's that steve . mate had one and just sent it back to amarica for the larger one
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jr
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i like the way everyone talks about lag, but actully has no idea what spec it is
if its got a marem (sp) shaft and is full bb, it will spool up earlier anyway, and if its running Anti-Lag, and various other things it wont matter
also, it seems who ever is building it, doesnt mind spending £££, so at a guess the rest of the engine spec will be suited to a turbo of that size
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harrisp
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Originally posted by jr
i like the way everyone talks about lag, but actully has no idea what spec it is
if its got a marem (sp) shaft and is full bb, it will spool up earlier anyway, and if its running Anti-Lag, and various other things it wont matter
also, it seems who ever is building it, doesnt mind spending £££, so at a guess the rest of the engine spec will be suited to a turbo of that size
Well I was joking anyway, but with what ever engine you will still get turbo lag with a big turbo (unless you are running anti lag).
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by jr
i like the way everyone talks about lag, but actully has no idea what spec it is
if its got a marem (sp) shaft and is full bb, it will spool up earlier anyway, and if its running Anti-Lag, and various other things it wont matter
also, it seems who ever is building it, doesnt mind spending £££, so at a guess the rest of the engine spec will be suited to a turbo of that size
At that size its still going to take a fair while to spool up. Not only that, especially with the length of that exhaust manifold. Its only a diddy 2.0 remember so needs some serious revving to get the turbo spinning right.
Can't see why on earth you would want antilag on the road. Expensive kit which leads to expensive replacements.
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Steve X16XE
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Originally posted by k e l
who's that steve . mate had one and just sent it back to amarica for the larger one
A mate called Ben. Used to work with him in a pub many many moons ago. Saw him the other day and told me he had a LET engine. never said anything about the slightly bigger turbo
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antnee
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Who wouldn't want anti-lag?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=puGCda4ThvU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EeGPakSDtQU
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k e l
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Originally posted by Steve X16XE
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Originally posted by k e l
who's that steve . mate had one and just sent it back to amarica for the larger one
A mate called Ben. Used to work with him in a pub many many moons ago. Saw him the other day and told me he had a LET engine. never said anything about the slightly bigger turbo
ye a few people are using them now. mate with the orange tigra is running one i was telling you about ill try to get some pics
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Nick-S
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Registered: 3rd Mar 04
Location: Leigh. Drives: RS Megane 230 F1 Team R26
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how dose anti lag actualy work?
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by antnee
Who wouldn't want anti-lag?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=puGCda4ThvU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EeGPakSDtQU
Everyone wants it, its a great bit of kit.
Only if you can afford to keep replacing items though, small items, such as turbos It keeps them constently spinning.
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Steve X16XE
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Originally posted by GSi_16v
how dose anti lag actualy work?
Something like fuel is shoved through the turbo coz it's so hot it burns it and keeps it spinning instantly.
Could be million miles off. Just wait a min for someone in the know.
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k e l
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http://www.rallycars.com/Cars/bangbang.html
had a read up on it other day to understand how it works
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Steve X16XE
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I'm on that now
"How ALS works
When the driver lifts his foot from the gas pedal the ignition timing is altered with sometimes 40° or more of delay (retard) and the intake air and fuel supply mixture is made richer. The inlet butterfly is kept slightly open or an air injector is used to maintain air supply to the engine. This results in air/fuel mixture that keeps getting in the combustion chambers when the driver no longer accelerates. The ignition being delayed, the air/fuel mixture reaches the exhaust tubes mostly unburned. When the spark plug fires, the exhaust valve is starting to open due to the ignition delay mentioned above. Additionally, the exhaust temperature being extremely high, the unburned fuel explodes at the contact of the exhaust tubes. Luckily the turbo sits right there and the explosion keeps it turning (otherwise it would slow down since its intake, the exhaust gases, is cut-off). The effect is vastly lower response times with some downsides:"
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ScottBeck
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what inlet is he going to be running on that beast?
anti lags awesome id quite happily have it on the road!!
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Nick-S
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arrrr i c, i always thought fule was injected into the turbo abit like an afteburner on a aircraft 
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Mattb
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Originally posted by jr
i like the way everyone talks about lag, but actully has no idea what spec it is
if its got a marem (sp) shaft and is full bb, it will spool up earlier anyway, and if its running Anti-Lag, and various other things it wont matter
also, it seems who ever is building it, doesnt mind spending £££, so at a guess the rest of the engine spec will be suited to a turbo of that size
I would certainly hope so. if the turbo is 'good for 600bhp' then i would hope the engine would run close to that figure, otherwise its too big and a complete waste
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Rick Draper
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
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Originally posted by jr
i like the way everyone talks about lag, but actully has no idea what spec it is
if its got a marem (sp) shaft and is full bb, it will spool up earlier anyway, and if its running Anti-Lag, and various other things it wont matter
also, it seems who ever is building it, doesnt mind spending £££, so at a guess the rest of the engine spec will be suited to a turbo of that size
At that size its still going to take a fair while to spool up. Not only that, especially with the length of that exhaust manifold. Its only a diddy 2.0 remember so needs some serious revving to get the turbo spinning right.
Can't see why on earth you would want antilag on the road. Expensive kit which leads to expensive replacements.
At what size? Do you know what AR the inlet and exhaust housings are? Do you know what the trim of the turbo is? Do you know what CR or cam spec its on? Do you know what CC the engine will be?
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ed
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Daimo knows all.
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WATSON
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I think you get lag on most cars with big fuck off turbos 
My mates T88 takes a good few secs to spool up 
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Chris S
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Gimps
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broster
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Registered: 6th Dec 02
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Originally posted by VXR
Turbo lag, its bad enough getting traction anyway.
0-5000rpm, sub 100bhp
5000-7000rpm 500bhp
Im all for big engines in small cars, but theres a point of practicality over performance, if thats going in a FWD, especially a corsa (not enough weight) then Too much power, would be better off in a bigger shell.
youd be suprised, depening on the turbo spec and rest of the engine spec it may not be that laggy, and as for grip, depends on the suspension, tyres and power delivery, iv driven 350+ bhp escort turbo's and found grip not to be a problem, then iv driven 200bhp turbos and wheel span everywhere
were currently building a 1.6 cvh which will be 400bhp+gas fully stripped out, very light shell, with the correct suspension set up and spec'd engine itll grip very well.
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jr
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quote:
Originally posted by Rick Draper
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Originally posted by VXR
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Originally posted by jr
i like the way everyone talks about lag, but actully has no idea what spec it is
if its got a marem (sp) shaft and is full bb, it will spool up earlier anyway, and if its running Anti-Lag, and various other things it wont matter
also, it seems who ever is building it, doesnt mind spending £££, so at a guess the rest of the engine spec will be suited to a turbo of that size
At that size its still going to take a fair while to spool up. Not only that, especially with the length of that exhaust manifold. Its only a diddy 2.0 remember so needs some serious revving to get the turbo spinning right.
Can't see why on earth you would want antilag on the road. Expensive kit which leads to expensive replacements.
At what size? Do you know what AR the inlet and exhaust housings are? Do you know what the trim of the turbo is? Do you know what CR or cam spec its on? Do you know what CC the engine will be?
my follow up post was actuly look at rick drapers engine and turbo, similr in size from what i can see
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