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John
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He's also forgetting that sitting at 60 in a diesel for 20 miles would probably get even better mpg.

I get 37-40 normal driving but if i'm sitting at 85 on the motorway it goes up to 50+ no bother.
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quote:
Originally posted by John
He's also forgetting that sitting at 60 in a diesel for 20 miles would probably get even better mpg.

I get 37-40 normal driving but if i'm sitting at 85 on the motorway it goes up to 50+ no bother.

Partly the reason I sit at 60mph though, is because it's a 12v, and sits comfortably at 60mph. Sitting at 70mph is fine, but it doesn't have much more to give.

Don't get me wrong, I will change the 12v sooner or later, and no doubt for something faster.

But working out the MPG has made me realise the 12v isn't so bad after all, once getting to 60 - 70mph.

Stavs - a Corsa C SRi is on the cards. Depending on mileage to/from work (may get a job in London you see) I'll be choosing the 1.8 or 1.7!
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i like my revs too much to own a diesel
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what you lose in revs, you gain in torque tho. You don't generally fell power as much as torque. For instance, diesels can sit in 6th at 30mph and them pull to 60 mph without gear changes, and still return good economy. I doubt many lower power petrols would do that, even with down changes
deano87
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12v does 40mph and up in 5th. Albeit slowly, but still
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i dont know how you get acurate readings when you didnt start with an empty tank and drive till it was bone dry?
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quote:
Originally posted by mobby
i dont know how you get acurate readings when you didnt start with an empty tank and drive till it was bone dry?

Because I worked out the MPG of the fuel used over 344 miles?!
John
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He's saying you don't know exactly how much fuel you used over the last 344 miles apart from going by having a quarter tank left.
deano87
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The VAT receipt I got at the petrol station says I used 32.76 litres in 344 miles.

I reset the mile thing (the one you can reset) every time I fill up.
John
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Thats very accurate if you stopped filling at the same time, sorry, i'm an idiot.

Only if you filled to the same point both times.

[Edited on 02-04-2008 by John]
deano87
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Yeah, click. Then another squeeze, click.

So, I did however many miles, filled up.

Reset odometer thing.

Drive 344 miles.

Fill up again, click. Then squeeze and it clicks.

32.76 litres to 344 miles.

Unless I'm COMPLETELY missing something?!
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Meh, my dirty derv would do 55mpg at 60-70mph all day
Warren G
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my stinknig petrol will do 22-25mpg all day long, well untill my wallets empty
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Price of petrol these days mate, won't take long
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i wonder what you could get out of a 12v if you never went over 60mph and coasted up to junctions and down hills? looking at 50+ mpg possibly?

my first car (12v) used to run on fumes. it was essentially a shopping car - dead slow but very very economical. no matter how much you 'rag' a 12v, it will never return bad fuel economy -
Dione J
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result! need to work out how much mine does?
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I get 35 mpg on avrage from my 1.6 sport
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35mpg average isnt bad from a 1.6
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I've experienced quite a few dervs in the past and after driving all of those I wouldn't want to own one, even tho I do


thats quote of the year that
John
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It also looks like its from someone who has driven a couple of non turbo diesels and a couple of vans and currently drives a 1.2 petrol.
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i used to get about 20mpg out of my 12v, i think it must have been fucked
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quote:
Originally posted by lee_wee
i used to get about 20mpg out of my 12v, i think it must have been fucked


was it a special edition supercharged one?

must've been fucked mate
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
I've experienced quite a few dervs in the past and after driving all of those I wouldn't want to own one, even tho I do


thats quote of the year that


As I said, I've never seen a petrol Sprinter, I need a van for work, I don't like it but I sort of grew out of my Corsa a bit

And John, I'm not sure what my current 1.2 petrol has gotta do with anything, all I was saying is the diesels that I've drove have basically all sounded shit and I've not liked driving em, and they haven't all been old rickity things I've drove a lot of brand new diesels that have been getting PDI'd. My dad keeps saying how you can barely tell new diesel engines by sound cos they're that refind now, but recently I've heard a mk5 Golf 1.9 tdi and a Merc E class diesel and yeah, they are a lot quieter than some older diesels but they still both sounded shit, as I said it'd take a lot to win me over, I've just not liked diesels since the first time I drove one.
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I managed 48mpg on sunday on a 200 mile round trip, alot of which were on roads like this, (at speeds that a 12v could only dream of )
John G
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I get 450 miles to £41 of diesel in a 1.7tdi, so thats better then the mpg your gettin, so id stil rather stick with a diesel

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