Ojc
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On a bike it slows you down VERY quickly. I like doing it in traffic, it's all about car control and timing. Most people are leaving to small a gap and stamping on the brake pedal causing traffic for no reason, if everyone just flowed with their driving traffic would be a lot calmer.
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dannymccann
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Thanks for that Harris, learnt something new 
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harrisp
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Originally posted by dannymccann
Thanks for that Harris, learnt something new
Well I cant just keep trying to rick roll ya now can I .
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Originally posted by Ojc
On a bike it slows you down VERY quickly. I like doing it in traffic, it's all about car control and timing. Most people are leaving to small a gap and stamping on the brake pedal causing traffic for no reason, if everyone just flowed with their driving traffic would be a lot calmer.
Its ok but then you have the people who just look for brake lights and end up getting within inches of you because the didn't notice you slowing down .
[Edited on 24-02-2009 by harrisp]
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pow
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You honestly shouldn't make a constant habbit of it, a clutch isnt cheap
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Mike
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^ This is what I dont understand when people say 'letting off the accelerator cuts the fuel supply' but combustion engine requires fuel and air to mix and explode to power the pistons does it not? 
Correct, but when slowing down you don't want the engine running as it normally would because it wouldn't slow down. It's like if you was rolling upto a set of lights and you turned the engine off and didn't press the clutch, it would just be the same as engine breaking the engine wouldn't just suddenly stop because there is no fuel, the momentum of the wheels keeps the engine turning.
The only reason cars running carbs used fuel when slowing down was because the air going through the carbs would draw the petrol in but when petrol is injected it can stop injecting petrol if it is not needed. It was one of the selling points when fuel injection was first brought out.
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dannymccann
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Think mine is on the way out anyway, every time you pull off it makes a strange groaning noise
This may be due to me pulling off all the time solely on the clutch? Is that another topic?
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andy1868
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i use engine braking because it makes my car sound cool to passing girls
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Mike
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You honestly shouldn't make a constant habbit of it, a clutch isnt cheap
Everyone that lives in my house does it and as far as I can remember only one car has ever needed a clutch replacing and it was bought the week before so someone else goosed that one up.
If you're worried about wearing it out tho, heal and toe is where it's at 
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pow
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My feet are too small to heel and toe 
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dannymccann
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I dunno how to heel and toe Might have a quick google
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Neo
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I dunno how to heel and toe Might have a quick google
Tried it, results were similar to attempts at left foot braking 
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Mike
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It's funny in my car, whenever I'm slowing down I use engine braking, sometimes I heel and toe, other times I don't but either way if there's a few 'yoofs' about my car WILL get looked at
If I heal and toe they hear a loud rev and look, if I don't they hear it popping and look
Heel and toe does take some getting used to, it's best to try it away from public roads at first First time I tried was on some empty car park in Nottingham in a Suzuki Ignis 'Twas a bit jerky
[Edited on 24-02-2009 by Mike B]
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pow
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Yeah me too, Kirsty hit the dashboard pretty sharpish
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Neo
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Yeah me too, Kirsty hit the dashboard pretty sharpish
Your who i was referring to
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dannymccann
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I 'can' left foot brake.....dont like the look of this heel and toe business though
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Daveskater
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Originally posted by Ojc
On a bike it slows you down VERY quickly. I like doing it in traffic, it's all about car control and timing. Most people are leaving to small a gap and stamping on the brake pedal causing traffic for no reason, if everyone just flowed with their driving traffic would be a lot calmer.
 to that.
I sit in a load of traffic every morning queueing up to a toll bridge, and you get that all the time.
Might be a slight tangent, but my dad seems to have no idea what he's doing with the pedals so puts a fair bit of revs on, dumps half the clutch really quickly, and then slams the brakes on when he's near enough about to hit the person in front. There's no point trying to tell him to be more gentle because he tells me to get out the car if I don't shut up
Numberwang!
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I like you Dave, you are a man of men
Originally Whatapp'd by Neo
Dave's maybe capable of a drive-by cuddle
Look at my pictures
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harrisp
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If you want to save wear on your clutch just change gear without using it.
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pow
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Yeah me too, Kirsty hit the dashboard pretty sharpish
Your who i was referring to
Ohhh fuckkkk yeahh
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Neo
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lil_g
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Originally posted by pow
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do it all the time, its there to be used
Pow will confirm this after our M25 trip
Mate you didnt do much braking on that whole trip
That's how it's done
I have a spare brand new clutch at home though
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pow
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Was that the night I was like "WOAHHH ROUDABOUT"?
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Nick-S
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Originally posted by Mike B
It's funny in my car, whenever I'm slowing down I use engine braking, sometimes I heel and toe, other times I don't but either way if there's a few 'yoofs' about my car WILL get looked at
If I heal and toe they hear a loud rev and look, if I don't they hear it popping and look
Heel and toe does take some getting used to, it's best to try it away from public roads at first First time I tried was on some empty car park in Nottingham in a Suzuki Ignis 'Twas a bit jerky
[Edited on 24-02-2009 by Mike B]
dont see why you need to heel and toe. its only used to match the revs when changeing down fast so engine brakeing dose not lock the driven wheels, ie in a rwd car mid bend, it would be like yancking the handbrake 
[Edited on 24-02-2009 by GSi_16v]
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Neo
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Was that the night I was like "WOAHHH ROUDABOUT"?
No, late for school and you said "i wonder what happens if i break with my left foot at the lights" and then james headbutted the back of my seat
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Mike
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If you want to save wear on your clutch just change gear without using it.
That's a fun game to play when bored My Sprinter van doesn't like it tho, although I think some of the synchros are on the way out anyway, it really doesn't like going into second when it's cold 
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pow
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Originally posted by pow
Was that the night I was like "WOAHHH ROUDABOUT"?
No, late for school and you said "i wonder what happens if i break with my left foot at the lights" and then james headbutted the back of my seat
Late for school? we were never ever ever ever ever late for school!
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