Robbo
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how anyone can have confudsed the situation for holliganism is absurd! i watched the itv documentary a few weeks ago... think cosmo got it spot on, its not all down to the police but the buck has to stop with them, made some appalling decisions and they had plenty of cctv etc to realise. the dad of the 2 young girls who died in the documentary has a go at a policeman saying how packe dit was in the main pen and how quiet in the others and is promptly told to piss off... if thats true then it proves the incompetance!
Very very sad  Anyone whos been in any sort of a crush (even the tube to some extent) knows how horrible it is and to have been penned in unable to breathe etc must have been atrocious
I sat silently at my desk at 3.06!
Oh, and the use of the word pen... a pen is no way to hold people, cant believe people ever thought it was!
Oh and alos, hte the way noone mentoions those people killed in the many stadium collapse sin africa, equally as sad IMO
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Danny P
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quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
how anyone can have confudsed the situation for holliganism is absurd
Given what was going on up & down the country in the late 70's with regards to hooliganism I can see why at first a few people being on the pitch people will have thought it was.
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Robbo
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yeah get what youre saying but you can see the crush quite clearly in the pictures, should have been obvious that it was more than that, imo
also why do people keep saying 70s, hillsborough happened in 1989 :/
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Cosmo
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I think if you watch the footage though Danny, its fairly obvious if you watch it for more than 30 seconds that its blatantly something wrong and not a bunch of hooligans.
It certainly wasnt something that took 30mins to decide, and thats how long it was until the police allowed the ambulance on.
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Danny P
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I think if you watch the footage though Danny, its fairly obvious if you watch it for more than 30 seconds that its blatantly something wrong and not a bunch of hooligans.
It certainly wasnt something that took 30mins to decide, and thats how long it was until the police allowed the ambulance on.
Oh yeah I'm not saying it should have taken 30 minutes to realise what was going on, just right at the very start folk running on to the pitch might have been seen as hooliganism. Like you say, shouldn't have taken so long for it to be worked out it wasn't, and something should have been done about it.
Even from the TV pictures you can see people being crushed, so bearing in mind CCTV will have been installed as well, its impossible to see why the Police didn't act quicker get people out of the stand and get them some medical attention.
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Cosmo
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Petition for a new inquiry into the disaster, please sign....
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/lfcdisaster/
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Ben J
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Can I just say its good that this thread has had some element of discussion, without getting aggro or personal.
I'm waiting for VXR/Daimo to tell us we are all wrong and are chavs though...
[Edited on 16-04-2009 by Ben J]
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Cosmo
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Nah, he has his signts set on the footballers pay thread!
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Marc
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Cosmoan, I was told about a Hillsborough film this morning starring Ricky Tomlinson amongst others. Have you seen it?
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Cosmo
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Is it a film or a docufilm type thing?
Not seen it from what I know of.
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Edd
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was on last night on itv4 iirc
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Joe
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It was on ITV 4 last night, just called Hillsborough.
Its a docu-drama-film type thing.
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Edd
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also is it safe to mention now about the celtic-liverpool ynwa banner?
support from the very same fans who booed through a minutes silence for the 20 year anniversary of the ibrox disaster
hypocrites
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Cosmo
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also is it safe to mention now about the celtic-liverpool ynwa banner?
They gave us that a few years ago now, has been taken all over the show by us.
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Ben J
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Originally posted by Edd
also is it safe to mention now about the celtic-liverpool ynwa banner?
support from the very same fans who booed through a minutes silence for the 20 year anniversary of the ibrox disaster
hypocrites
Thats a disgrace. All rivalary ends when people die.
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Edd
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Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by Edd
also is it safe to mention now about the celtic-liverpool ynwa banner?
They gave us that a few years ago now, has been taken all over the show by us.
i know but i wasnt gonna start a controversial topic on a day like yesterday
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Edd
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Originally posted by Ben J
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Originally posted by Edd
also is it safe to mention now about the celtic-liverpool ynwa banner?
support from the very same fans who booed through a minutes silence for the 20 year anniversary of the ibrox disaster
hypocrites
Thats a disgrace. All rivalary ends when people die.
they will tell you it didnt happen but it did they also have a wee song about it
such a caring bunch of fans
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Cosmo
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start a new thread then, dont have a go in here when we and our 96 dead have fuck all to do with it.
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Edd
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no thanks this seems fine i've had my say and i'll leave it at that
in no way am i disrespecting the dead so dont dare make it seem like that
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Cosmo
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I wasnt making it out like that, I just dont want a thread about 96 people who died needlessly 20yrs ago to have your shite in over something that has fuck all to do with it.
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Edd
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if you fail to see the comparison i was making its hardly my fault
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Cosmo
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Their is no comparison that needs to be in this thread, so fuck off.
I have no problem you having a go at the Celtic fans over this, just go and start a thread and do it there.
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Edd
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yes there is its a thread started BY a celtic fan portraying how caring they are when really they are scum who mocked 66 of my fellows fans dying
RIP to the 96 + 66
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Cosmo
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And I wonder why people think you're a cunt...
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Edd
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no Celtic fans think im a cunt and fools like you are tricked into believing it
i get on with plenty of folk on here and at one time you where one(koni? remember) then hammer and his merry crew became more prolific at posting and your attitude changed
strange that
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