Joe
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Because he has no dreams and aspirations so is happy to plod along through life earning £20k a year so the fact that anything over £100k a year gets taxed more is fair to him?
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willay
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its all bollocks really, no surprises about taxing the rich  - Anyone who kept up with current affairs knew it wouldnt be a fun budget (when are they ever?). Gays.
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pow
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What do you mean a "fun" budget Will?
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willay
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fun as in, something to look forward to, something thats actually going to benefit us. Its all doom and gloom, massive borrowing of funds, higher taxes on things we enjoy, booze, fags, fuel.
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pow
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Nothing about fags booze yet, and Darling has sat down 
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willay
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what do you mean? theres a tax increase which is happening tonight? one at 6pm and the other at midnight.
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Andrew
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The fact 2p is being put on a litre annoys me 
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John
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quote:
Originally posted by Joe
Because he has no dreams and aspirations so is happy to plod along through life earning £20k a year so the fact that anything over £100k a year gets taxed more is fair to him?
That's exactly what I think Joe.
Even if you don't end up with that much it's nice to have some aspirations to it.
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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by John
How is it fairest?
Why is it more fair for them to be taxed than somebody on 15k?
Because someone on £15k per year would struggle to provide for themselves of a family, and a house etc etc...
Someone earning £100k a year will never ever have these issues.
Money does not define your life, it only accounts for luxuries which are simply that. Theres a basic amount you need to live on, the rest is purley up to you.
[Edited on 22-04-2009 by VXR]
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pow
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Originally posted by willay
what do you mean? theres a tax increase which is happening tonight? one at 6pm and the other at midnight.
When where info?
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willay
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
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Originally posted by willay
what do you mean? theres a tax increase which is happening tonight? one at 6pm and the other at midnight.
When where info?
news.bbc.co.uk come on david.
The increases tonight are for fags and booze.
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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
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Originally posted by John
How is it fairest?
Why is it more fair for them to be taxed than somebody on 15k?
Because someone on £15k per year would struggle to provide for themselves of a family, and a house etc etc...
Someone earning £100k a year will never ever have these issues.
Better to screw those that can afford it than those that simply cannot.
theres a lot more people who earn £10k-£30k than there are £100k+ earners. The money has to come from somewhere. Do you want us to turn into a 3rd world country?
Hopefully the big earners will all move away from this country and leave those who are glad for the rich to be taxed so much to rot.
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Neo
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CIGARETTES AND ALCOHOL
• Alcohol and cigarettes taxes to go up 2% from midnight - one estimate is that it would put 5p on the average pint of beer
• Fuel duty to rise by 2p per litre from September
CAR SCRAPPAGE SCHEME
• From next month until March 2010 motorists to get £2,000 discount on new cars if they trade in cars older than 10 years
TAX
# Income tax for those earning more than £150,000 to rise to 50% from April 2010
# Tax relief on pensions to be reduced for people on more than £150,000 a year
UK ECONOMY
• Economy forecast to shrink 3.5% in 2009
• Growth expected to pick up in 2010, expanding by 1.25%.
• Economy to grow by 3.5% annually from 2011
• Public borrowing to increase to £175bn this year
• Borrowing levels to rise by £173bn, £140bn, £118bn and £97bn in years after
• Consumer price inflation to fall to 1% by end of year.
JOBS AND TRAINING
• Government support for economy to protect 500,000 jobs
• All long-term unemployed under 25s to be offered job or training
• £1.7bn additional resources for Job Centre network
• £250m funding to help people get work experience in growth industries
• Funding to create 54,000 new places in sixth form education
HOUSING
• Scheme to guarantee mortgage backed securities to boost lending
• Stamp duty holiday for homes up to £175,000 to be extended to end of year
• Extra £80m for shared equity mortgage scheme
# £500m to kickstart stalled housing projects
# £100m for local authorities to build energy efficient homes
# £50m to upgrade housing for the armed forces
GOVERNMENT SAVINGS
• An extra £9bn in efficiency savings is planned
• Public spending to be cut from 1.1% next year to 0.7% in 2011-2012
BENEFITS
# Child tax credit to rise by £20 by 2010
# Child trust funds for disabled children to rise by £100 a year, £200 a year for severely disabled children
SAVINGS
# Annual limit for tax-free ISAs to rise to more than £10,000 for over-50s this year and for everyone else next year
ENVIRONMENT
# £525m for offshore wind projects
# £435m support for energy efficiency schemes
HELP FOR BUSINESS
# Loss-making companies to be able to reclaim more taxes paid in the last three years
PENSIONERS
# Grandparents of working age who care for their grandchildren will see that work count towards their entitlement for the basic state pension
# Winter fuel allowance to be maintained at higher level - £250 for over 60s and £400 for over-80s - for another year
# The basic state pension will be increased by at least 2.5%, regardless of inflation
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pow
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sorry 
Petrol went up on the 1st of April, it'll go up when VAT goes up and again on the 1st of April next year.
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John
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You've just basically said it's not a fair system Daimo, it's supposed to be, i'm not even starting though because i've not got time.
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Joe
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
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Originally posted by John
How is it fairest?
Why is it more fair for them to be taxed than somebody on 15k?
Because someone on £15k per year would struggle to provide for themselves of a family, and a house etc etc...
Someone earning £100k a year will never ever have these issues.
Better to screw those that can afford it than those that simply cannot.
theres a lot more people who earn £10k-£30k than there are £100k+ earners. The money has to come from somewhere. Do you want us to turn into a 3rd world country?
Its not 'fair' though is it?
Fair is everyone being taxed the same percentage.
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liamC
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There has been talk of introducing tax of Brits' salaries, no matter which country they live in.
Americans have to do it already - I'd be f#cking furious
[Edited on 22-04-2009 by liamC]
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mwg
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I'd be pissed off if I was earning enough money for that income tax threshold to affect me. Its not fair.
But as I'm not I'd rather they taxed the rich more instead of increasing the tax more for the more average wage earners like me.
[Edited on 22-04-2009 by Matty G]
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Daimo B
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Editted.
I've worked with those that are rich and blow money on stupid things purley because they can, which is fair enough.... They earn enoguh to be able to do that.
Meanwhile, Joe bloggs didn't do too well at school and has a natural disability when it comes to learning things. He still wants to work hard, but will never earn huge money. He still has to live.....
We pay tax, which runs the country.
Anyone who's rich is welcome to move abroad. If i was rich, I certainly wouldn't stay here.
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Cosmo
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If you live in another country and earn in another country how the fuck can the UK tax you?
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swill_omnibus
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
If I had the skills to earn £150k a year Id be taking them to another country.
I'll second that 
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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by Joe
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Originally posted by VXR
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Originally posted by John
How is it fairest?
Why is it more fair for them to be taxed than somebody on 15k?
Because someone on £15k per year would struggle to provide for themselves of a family, and a house etc etc...
Someone earning £100k a year will never ever have these issues.
Better to screw those that can afford it than those that simply cannot.
theres a lot more people who earn £10k-£30k than there are £100k+ earners. The money has to come from somewhere. Do you want us to turn into a 3rd world country?
Its not 'fair' though is it?
Fair is everyone being taxed the same percentage.
Life isn't fair, get over it.........
See all you lot are complaining about rich being taxed, but it doesn't effect any of you really... And if it does, you earn enough money, so tough luck....
Meanwhile, lots of countries are engadged in wars, famine, ill health...... Wonder if those huge earners are concerned about those people???
Course not, neither is the common man. The common man is just trying to get by.
Rich people never need to just "get by"
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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
Life isn't fair, get over it.........
See all you lot are complaining about rich being taxed, but it doesn't effect any of you really... And if it does, you earn enough money, so tough luck....
Of course it effects Joe
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Joe
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
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Originally posted by Joe
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Originally posted by VXR
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Originally posted by John
How is it fairest?
Why is it more fair for them to be taxed than somebody on 15k?
Because someone on £15k per year would struggle to provide for themselves of a family, and a house etc etc...
Someone earning £100k a year will never ever have these issues.
Better to screw those that can afford it than those that simply cannot.
theres a lot more people who earn £10k-£30k than there are £100k+ earners. The money has to come from somewhere. Do you want us to turn into a 3rd world country?
Its not 'fair' though is it?
Fair is everyone being taxed the same percentage.
Life isn't fair, get over it.........
See all you lot are complaining about rich being taxed, but it doesn't effect any of you really... And if it does, you earn enough money, so tough luck....
Meanwhile, lots of countries are engadged in wars, famine, ill health...... Wonder if those huge earners are concerned about those people???
Course not, neither is the common man. The common man is just trying to get by.
Rich people never need to just "get by"
Sorry, you're right as usual. Yes life isn't fair, but you are trying to suggest that taxing the rich more is. I'm not saying whats right or wrong to do. I'm saying YOU are WRONG by saying that its a FAIR system. FAIR means EQUAL, if everyone got taxed say 10% of their wage, that is EQUAL to EVERYONE and FAIR.
But you will argue as you always do and make up some rubbish stories and ideas.
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liamC
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
If you live in another country and earn in another country how the fuck can the UK tax you?
Basically because you're a UK citizen.
The yanks have no choice and have to do it.
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