Half Pint
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I think all ISP's are duty bound to start tracking downloads as they can be fined if they dont start to try and stem the flow of illegal downloads.
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will_doyle
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They have given an ip address in the letter. they say that ... that IP was linked the the download
but that isnt our ip address
And I cant even find the 2 songs on my pc which they listed in the letter
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BluKoo
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quote:
Originally posted by will_doyle
sorry, They have all the music I have downloaded in the letter.
quote:
Originally posted by will_doyle
they have 2 songs listed in the letter
and I downloaded about 50
quote:
Originally posted by will_doyle
And I cant even find the 2 songs on my pc which they listed in the letter
So did you download them or not?
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Daveskater
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quote:
Originally posted by will_doyle
sorry, They have all the music I have downloaded in the letter.
quote:
Originally posted by will_doyle
they have 2 songs listed in the letter
and I downloaded about 50
quote:
Originally posted by will_doyle
They have given an ip address in the letter. they say that ... that IP was linked the the download
but that isnt our ip address
And I cant even find the 2 songs on my pc which they listed in the letter
Keep your story straight, will you!
Numberwang!
Originally posted by AlunJ
I like you Dave, you are a man of men
Originally Whatapp'd by Neo
Dave's maybe capable of a drive-by cuddle
Look at my pictures
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will_doyle
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I dont no..
well I cant remember
the tunes arnt on my pc..
might of deleted them
but I dont understand why our IP is different
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Daveskater
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Lawl me and Murray are on the same page 
It's fairly simple to get a new IP, all you need to do to get another IP is to restart your router, if you're using one.
[Edited on 08-05-2009 by Daveskater]
Numberwang!
Originally posted by AlunJ
I like you Dave, you are a man of men
Originally Whatapp'd by Neo
Dave's maybe capable of a drive-by cuddle
Look at my pictures
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BluKoo
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quote:
Originally posted by Daveskater
Lawl me and Murray are on the same page
Beat ya to it 
[Edited on 08-05-2009 by BluKoo]
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Daveskater
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I no rite 
Numberwang!
Originally posted by AlunJ
I like you Dave, you are a man of men
Originally Whatapp'd by Neo
Dave's maybe capable of a drive-by cuddle
Look at my pictures
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Dan Lewis
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virgin use dynamic IP so it will change when the modem is off or if the IP changes at set intervals. get into newsgroups 
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MatthewR
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Originally posted by John
even virgin know you fail at the inernet.
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_Allan_
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You are forgeting lease time. I've had my router off for 48 hours and can still get the same IP on restart. It depends on the ISP. They'll only issue another if the one you previously had has been taken in the time you've been off.
I'm sure they have a fair few spare so can be assigned the same one back quite often.
[Edited on 10-05-2009 by _Allan_]
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John
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Have we confirmed all the posters in this thread apart from you are correct yet Will?
Mainly that there isn't a chance in hell it's anything to do with you converting youtube videos.
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Bart
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change ISPs, without a shadow of a doubt.
To do that to customers they are scum bags
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AndyKent
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quote:
Originally posted by Bart
change ISPs, without a shadow of a doubt.
To do that to customers they are scum bags
They're not really though are they, as you shouldn't be doing illegally downloading
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Bart
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actually, its none of their business what your doing. They have no right to send out harassing letters.
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BluKoo
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In before he deletes the thread.
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ssj_kakarot
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quote:
Originally posted by Bart
actually, its none of their business what your doing. They have no right to send out harassing letters.
couldnt agree more, if i get a letter not that i would, i would get the full lot taken out broadband, HD box, second cable box, 2 telephone lines ect.
cant be making many friends
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All Torque
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quote:
Originally posted by BluKoo
In before he deletes the thread.
+1
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cunningham
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i got a letter back in september asking for 550 for downloading an album illegallly i had 30 days to pay needless to say i ignored the letter and have never had a follow up they threatend me saying i would be takin to court if i dont pay up
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wilson_sri
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Originally posted by BluKoo
Ironic that Virgin could screw you.
[Edited on 08-05-2009 by BluKoo]
lmao
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Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by Dan Lewis
virgin use dynamic IP so it will change when the modem is off or if the IP changes at set intervals. get into newsgroups
technically yes, but they're known as "sticky" ip addresses where, like allan said, lease times come into play and you could leave the modem off for days and still receive the same ip address.
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Originally posted by Bart
change ISPs, without a shadow of a doubt.
To do that to customers they are scum bags
F'ing LOL
How the hell can you justify that Virgin are in the wrong?! How will changing ISP help? You're downloading illegally, which is against T&Cs, just like it is with all ISPs.
And the letter is just a blanket letter, certainly nothing will come of it.
Either way, if you plan to download illegally then you should have some understanding of the different P2P networks and how insecure most of them are.
You certainly shouldn't be sharing files, nor downloading from P2P networks like Kazaa, Ares etc due to there being plenty of honey trap users. Likewise with Torrents, which can just be as bad. Stick to the SSL newsgroups or rapidshare, it costs but you're less likely to get caught and to be shafted with a huge bill.
And at the end of the day, you should be prepared to get shafted!
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Originally posted by Bart
actually, its none of their business what your doing. They have no right to send out harassing letters.
They can't snoop on your data, but they certainly have the rights to do what ever they want if they find you to be in breach of the T&Cs.
And just add, it's also probable that the letter was sent out in response to a third-party legal company getting in contact to alert the ISP that a user (mostly likely due to a honey trap on a P2P network) was found to be downloading illegally content.
[Edited on 10-05-2009 by Dom]
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John
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It's not about illegal downloading, it's about privacy.
Most ISP's won't give up your details unless it's an absolute last resort.
Were virgin not interested in phorm as well, great ISP.
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noshua
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"i have wifi with no password"
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Carl
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Whats the crack with this then? I don't want a letter coming through saying i've been downloading crack whores get analised vol 1,2,3,4 etc. 
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John
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quote:
Originally posted by noshua
"i have wifi with no password"
It's always in the t&c's saying thats your problem.
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