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gez bay
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26th Jul 09 at 16:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
why coilovers? can use anything
SR91
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26th Jul 09 at 16:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
For the extra weight?
gez bay
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normal poundage springs are fine. you can just get higher poundage springs for the shocks
craig_s
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quote:
Originally posted by SR-91
quote:
Originally posted by craig_s
do you wonder why there are so many red top converted corsa's?it's easier and cheaper to do than tune a 1.6.


Not necessarily:

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Engine
Gearbox
Loom
ECU
Power steering bracket
Drive shafts (see below for more info)
Front engine mount
Modified gear linkage
16v Header tank (he's already got)
1.6 16v Fuel Pump & fuel clips (he's already got)
XE exhaust
Cavalier inner CV's
ARB Spacers (only needed if keeping ARB)
1.0 12v top hose for the right hand side of the rad (thermostat housing)
Rear gear box mount spacer
Transducer for gearbox ( to fit on mechanical speedo drive for electronic speedo) (you just change the clocks)
Rear coolant gallery (standard xe from Calibra or Cavalier is fine) (comes with the engine)
Fuel pipes that attach to the fuel rail (free from the scrappers)
Alternator (comes with the engine)
Alt bracket (comes with the engine)
Alt adjuster (comes with the engine)
PAS pump (comes with the engine or the 1.6 one is the same)
2 v belts (comes with engine if it has that setup)
Twin v bottom pulley (as above)
Ecotec adapter plate and pipe or powercap (unless you want to cut bulkhead and use sfi box
2.0 Cavalier disks, calipers and pads
coilovers (decent springs and shocks will do)


All this will add up to what I imagine would be around the same...


have you done many xe conversions?
Oli_p
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26th Jul 09 at 16:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
you wouldnt need half the things on that list, and for an xe i wouldnt really bother strengthening the shell either, as it wouldnt have the torque to do any damage
craig_s
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sr-91 your list was not quite right so ive edited,some of those thing you will already have.seriously it will be cheaper,easier and still faster to drop a red top in.but if you wan't to tune the 1.6 go for it.

[Edited on 26-07-2009 by craig_s]
SR91
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quote:
Originally posted by craig_s
sr-91 your list was not quite right so ive edited,some of those thing you will already have.seriously it will be cheaper,easier and still faster to drop a red top in.but if you wan't to tune the 1.6 go for it.

[Edited on 26-07-2009 by craig_s]


I've never done a conversion hence the list in quoted from the tutorials section, I'm not looking for an argument between a bog standard boring c20xe and modified x16xe i'm looking for friendly advice
craig_s
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26th Jul 09 at 16:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
any ive experienced both and im trying to give you advice as not to waste your money on a boring 1.6.have you driven a red top corsa?
SR91
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Originally posted by craig_s
any ive experienced both and im trying to give you advice as not to waste your money on a boring 1.6.have you driven a red top corsa?


No but I've raced one on my private road and it wasnt that much faster, untill top end, but that were a £700 jobby so probably were fuckered...
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Also insurance will be more on an xe then a modified sport... Tax is same though..
SR91
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I'm 17 aswell, doubt anyone would insure me on a xe!
Kenzie
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26th Jul 09 at 23:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Drive shafts (see below for more info) - Can use the ones you already have.

Modified gear linkage - can be modified yourself.

Fuel pipes that attach to the fuel rail - Fuel pipes cost buggar all from motor factors.

2 v belts - again, buggar all from motor factors.

2.0 Cavalier disks, calipers and pads - can source from ebay/scrappers.
flybikeslee
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26th Jul 09 at 23:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
buy a decent car to start with
tommyk22
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27th Jul 09 at 13:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i no how you feel i wana tune my 1.6 rather than an xe conversion coz there soooooo comon!
Nic Barnes
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27th Jul 09 at 13:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i bet you there are far far far far more 1600 corsas than there are xe's
ChrisBoom
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They are common for a reason, why spend £2k to make the same power as a £500 conversion?
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yeh but there wont be as many highly tuned 1.6's as xe conversion ones surly
Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by tommyk22
yeh but there wont be as many highly tuned 1.6's as xe conversion ones surly


because theyre shit in comparrison
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but different....?
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yeh but there wont be as many highly tuned 1.6's as xe conversion ones surly


Thats because most people have the sense to see that its not worth spending £2k on the 1600 to get 150bhp, when you could spend £2k on a XE conversion and end up with near 200bhp.
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Originally posted by tommyk22
but different....?


Different doesnt always mean better
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nah not necesaraly but thats like sayin why spend money on tunin an xe conversion one than just buyin a faster standars car
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Originally posted by SR-91
Hummm I wanna hit 150 but don't want an xe cause thats been done a thousand times before and don't fancy throttle bodies cause they're expensive to buy, then you need management then i don't understand how they get cold air


Be different.. Go X20XEV or Y22SE you can use the XE fitting kit.
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dont listen to davey lc he hasnt got a clue what he is taking about.
Mobby
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Do the x18xe1 conversion. cheap to convert and less bits to buy plus very different!

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