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Sunz
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19th Oct 09 at 15:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

VTR is 98 bhp
VTS 118 bhp

As CORSA NUT says you will need some spare cash to fix them, not the greatest cars for reliability.
I had a VTS MK2 2001 was great while it lasted
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oh dear.. well i dont drive fast
Neo
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VTR = Version Tourisme Rapide

VTS = Version Tourisme Sportif

Reliability has never been an issue on my C2 VTS to be honest before people start slating them.
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I loce C2's, one of my all time favorite cars
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Stuart H
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If wre talking about saxos here

Phase 1 vtr - 90bhp
Phase 2 vtr - 98bhp

Phase 1 vts - 118bhp
Phase2 vts - 127bhp

IIRC

mates 03 plate vts used to go off the clock no bother
mark_gsi
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all the vts are 120 bhp
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quote:
Originally posted by stuartyboy09
If wre talking about saxos here

Phase 1 vtr - 90bhp
Phase 2 vtr - 98bhp

Phase 1 vts - 118bhp
Phase2 vts - 127bhp

IIRC

mates 03 plate vts used to go off the clock no bother


I always thought VTR = 90bhp VTS 120bhp. Phase 1 and phase 2 are just like facelift versions, so different styling. No change in power as they are the same engines being used.
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yeah they are the same mate.
Stuart H
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1 plug, black top rocker cover, cat under the car = 90bhp mk1
1 plug, grey top rocker cover, cat under the car = 90bhp mk2
3 plug, silver top rocker cover, cat in manifold = 98bhp mk2 2001+

know my saxos lol
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Aye, there are two engines in the Saxo VTR's. The rust top (aka, silver top) makes 98bhp, and the older ones make 90bhp. I don't think the VTS's alter in power except the fabled 3 plug or something making about 130bhp. No known proof though
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VTR = 8v , VTS = 16v (with higher bhp around 120) just as badly made however!
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wasnt the new twingo based on the c2?
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quote:
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16v C2 is the GT isnt it?


I found out these are gutless up to 100 then they go backwards
Im only running an x16xe with lexmaul and full system.
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Had both VTR & VTS, ace cars, although you always have this thought in the back of your head that if you crash/someone hits you you'd die.

Look pretty poo at standard ride height so need lowering for sure.

My VTS never had a single problem, although I only had it 6 months. Had to get rid because it was simply too tiny to fit a baby seat etc in.

Fuel pump went on my VTR and left me stranded once. That was a shitter.

My VTS...



My VTR at standard height

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That VTS looks stunning

[Edited on 20-10-2009 by DannyB]
Brett
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Shiny

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Best and worse colour all at once
Brett
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The headlight mod is a good choice too. Only costs you a can of black spray. Check out the difference on my VTR to the VTS
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they are terribly made though, be warned if you buy one that every squeek and knock noise possible will eventually surfice during your ownership, and the interior light lets in water when it rains lol
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Thier not that bad. Its not the interior light its the sunroof seal that lets the water in. They dont crash very well at all because thier made of monkey metal. The knocking noise's can be sorted if you know what your looking for. The TU engines are bullet proof. And parts are easy to find if thier needed. Drive them properly and they go well. The choice is simple for me it would be vts but insurance group 14 compared to the vtr group 7 does work out a killer for some people
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quote:
Originally posted by MatthewR
they are terribly made though, be warned if you buy one that every squeek and knock noise possible will eventually surfice during your ownership, and the interior light lets in water when it rains lol



mate there only a cheap car there not goin to be mint,the fact people just drive them flat out most of the time to, course theres going to be problems ive done about 20k
in a year in mine and it hasnt been to bad. and its the sunroon/airel that let water in.

[Edited on 20-10-2009 by mark_gsi]
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quote:
Originally posted by mark_gsi
cheap car there not goin to be mint



Hole in one tbh

And to clear this up.

Saxo

VTR - Phase 1 = 1.6 8v + 90 bhp
VTR - Phase 2 = 1.6 8v + 100 bhp

VTS - Phase 1 = 1.6 16v + 120 bhp
VTS - Phase 2 = 1.6 16v + 120 bhp

C2

VTR = 1.1 8v + 61 bhp
HDI VTS = 1.4 8v + 70 bhp
VTS = 1.4 8v + 75 bhp
VTR = 1.4 8v + 75 bhp
VTR = 1.4 16v + 90 bhp (With Stop and Start)
VTR = 1.6 16v + 110 bhp (Sensodrive)
MOS VTR = 1.6 16v + 110 bhp (Sensodrive)
HDI VTS = 1.6 16v + 110 bhp
GT = 1.6 16v + 110 bhp
VTS = 1.6 16v + 125 bhp
Loeb = 1.6 16v + 125 bhp
Code = 1.6 16v + 125 bhp
Brett
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Light let water in Like that's a standard thing lol

Treat them nice and they'll treat you nice, the same with any car.

Mine got severely beaten all the time and they still kept on going, minus the fuel pump issue.

At the end of the day, all cars have problems from time to time. Just because my fuel pump went doesn't mean it'd happen to you. Same with these so called lights letting rain in when it rains
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Not all ph2 vtr are 98 neo they changed to that engine 2001 easiest way tell if it 98 brake is 3 plug ecu and cat on manifold

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