MatthewR
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he will, awful manager
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Rick Draper
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Originally posted by Hammer
Silly going for Mancini, they should have went for Moyes or O'Neill who both would have them challenging for the title with some decent money to spend.
What 2 managers the same caliber as Hughes with little or no money, give them monies to spend and epic fail will ensue.
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Eck
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Are you kidding? Moyes and O'Neill are a far higher calibre of manager than Hughes.
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Rick Draper
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Are you kidding? Moyes and O'Neill are a far higher calibre of manager than Hughes.
Where? Show me there credentials? O'Neil won at celtic iirc, but its north of the border and football is not real up there.
Show me the last time either had £15+ million to spend on one player and bought well  As i thought tbh neither has been in that position and nether ever will. Moyes or O'Neil will never be trusted at any of the bigger clubs.
[Edited on 20-12-2009 by Rick Draper]
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Rick. You ARE talking shit.
O'Neill hasn't exactly had a tiny budget, granted it doesn't have any £30m players in there but you don't follow football much if you think he hasn't had a good level of backing (same as Moyes TBH).
O'Neill is a top manager and what makes me absolutely PISS MYSELF is that you are a Liverpool fan talking about other managers not spending £15m+ plus well.
Ironic or what?
Aquilani you sodding trumpet!
[Edited on 20-12-2009 by LETGSI16V]
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mwg
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Aquilani you sodding trumpet!
You are forgetting he has single handedly turned their season around.... oh wait 
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Rick Draper
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Originally posted by LETGSI16V
Rick. You ARE talking shit.
O'Neill hasn't exactly had a tiny budget, granted it doesn't have any £30m players in there but you don't follow football much if you think he hasn't had a good level of backing (same as Moyes TBH).
O'Neill is a top manager and what makes me absolutely PISS MYSELF is that you are a Liverpool fan talking about other managers not spending £15m+ plus well.
Ironic or what?
Aquilani you sodding trumpet!
[Edited on 20-12-2009 by LETGSI16V]
Aquaman cost £5m upfront and the rest spread over 3 years iirc. It was a gamble but with no money you have to take gambles.
Torres bought for £20M now worth £60M+ fuck thats a bad buy, Alonso £10M sold for £30M etc etc. Fuck me they are 2 terrible buys to name a few.
O'Neill has not ever proven himself with money so therefore will imho never get a chance at a large club. Same with Moyes, good with no cash but potentially shit with lots. Look at Wenger, he never spends large amounts of money and over achieves far beyond either of the above mentioned managers and has done season after season. Look at Villa last year, top 4 then they capitulated and ended the season on a huge low.
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Carl
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You are talking crap, O'neil is a shit hot manager. Also how many managers do get the chance to spend a lot, not many, and the ones that do often don't prove themselves. There as to be a first time at some point.
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Eck
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Wait... "Good with no cash, but potentially shit with lots"...THAT is your theory on why they won't be big managers!?
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strick206
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Originally posted by Rick Draper
Aquaman cost £5m upfront and the rest spread over 3 years iirc. It was a gamble but with no money you have to take gambles.
Torres bought for £20M now worth £60M+ fuck thats a bad buy, Alonso £10M sold for £30M etc etc. Fuck me they are 2 terrible buys to name a few.
Robbie Keane?
Ryan Babel?
And there is no possible way i believe roma allowed you to pay just 5 million up front
You liverpool fans are amazing, everyone you sell you add 20% on, and anyone you buy costs an easter egg up front and the rest in installments
Stop kidding yourself
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Rick Draper
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Originally posted by strick206
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Originally posted by Rick Draper
Aquaman cost £5m upfront and the rest spread over 3 years iirc. It was a gamble but with no money you have to take gambles.
Torres bought for £20M now worth £60M+ fuck thats a bad buy, Alonso £10M sold for £30M etc etc. Fuck me they are 2 terrible buys to name a few.
Robbie Keane?
Ryan Babel?
And there is no possible way i believe roma allowed you to pay just 5 million up front
You liverpool fans are amazing, everyone you sell you add 20% on, and anyone you buy costs an easter egg up front and the rest in installments
Stop kidding yourself
Babel was £12m max, Keane was a Coco buy, everyone knows that. Look at the AS Roma publications on there site, its there for everyone to see.
[Edited on 21-12-2009 by Rick Draper]
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Rick Draper
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Originally posted by Carl
You are talking crap, O'neil is a shit hot manager. Also how many managers do get the chance to spend a lot, not many, and the ones that do often don't prove themselves. There as to be a first time at some point.
How is he shit hot? WTF has he done to be classed as shit hot? As far as i can see he has done fuckall in the league to warrant the "SHIT HOT" tag.
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Rick Draper
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Wait... "Good with no cash, but potentially shit with lots"...THAT is your theory on why they won't be big managers!?
Show me one club in the top 4 that would go for either of them? Why were City not knocking on there doors? why did Chelsea not go for them? Why did England not take one of them? Because they are not good enough. Hence City have gone for Mancini who is less of a risk as he has managed on the big stage and WON things. That last bit is kind of important. Its also why Jose, Frank Rijkaard and Guus Hiddink are constantly linked with big clubs in the UK.
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Rick Draper
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Wait... "Good with no cash, but potentially shit with lots"...THAT is your theory on why they won't be big managers!?
O BTW and as this is my thread you should all value the fact everyone has a opinion and lucky we are not all like yourself
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Eck
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And you didn't do the same as I did? I questioned your opinion much like you questioned someone else's 
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strick206
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O'Neill is a good manager
Breaking into the top 4 without spending 200million is almost impossible
He would certainly make better buys than that waiter you have at the minute
The thing that all the managers you name have is a big name, and it's hard to get started in football now.
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Nath
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Lets not forget what Oneil and Moyes done at Leicester and Preston too!
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whitter45
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Originally posted by Nath
Lets not forget what Oneil and Moyes done at Leicester and Preston too!
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mwg
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That press conference got a bit shitty
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strick206
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I hope brian kidd falls on a spike as well now going to that shite after years with us
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Hammer
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quote:
Originally posted by Rick Draper
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Originally posted by Hammer
Silly going for Mancini, they should have went for Moyes or O'Neill who both would have them challenging for the title with some decent money to spend.
What 2 managers the same caliber as Hughes with little or no money, give them monies to spend and epic fail will ensue.
Everton have been in the top 4 under Moyes and Villa will be in and about it again this season, if you gave both money to spend then surely they'd do better, nah?
Both managers turn good players into excellent ones; Young, Cahill, Pienaar, Milner etc etc etc
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strick206
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Yes and rafa turns good players into shit
keane, babel
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Nath
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I hope brian kidd falls on a spike as well now going to that shite after years with us
He's been shit everywhere else too. I don't get why people keep hiring him.
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by strick206
And there is no possible way i believe roma allowed you to pay just 5 million up front
TBH its true, direct from Roma who had to release the figure. Go to their website and search for news stories the date we signed him and you'll find it for yourself.
BTW - how did this turn in to a Rafa bashing thread without be even being in here
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Nath
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Still adds up to £20million of whatever though.
Rafa is a joke tbh. What a retard.
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