X16XE.Adam
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Why would you bore it out if hes on a tight budget? That would cost more than headwork lol.
As above have a go at abit of DIY porting, even if its just to do port matching it will still allow more air in and out. Im gonna have a go at doing my own headwork soon, when i can be bothered to get the tools 
Also what cams are you looking at getting? As don't forget that 270 is the max you can go unless you want to have pockets cut in the pistons.
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jamesy1990
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yeah wel im a machineist so pocketing pistons is no problem but a dont want to high a profile as the car will be my everyday car
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X16XE.Adam
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Argh that sums it up then, a nice set of 264's will probably be your best bet keeping a smooth idle.
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jamesy1990
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yeah sounds good . where would be my best bet of pickin a cam kit up ? ie cams pulleys do i yous solid lifter or will my standered lifter be ok and would i benefit from double valve springs ( good advice people keep it coming ) 
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X16XE.Adam
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I would personally go for a set of newman 264 cams, I have read that many people prefer the newman cams over the likes of piper etc.
http://www.lmfvauxhall.co.uk/store/product.php?productid=17549&cat=2815&page=1
hydraulic lifters will be fine, only need solid lifters if your going to run high RPM.
Same with double valve springs, save the money, not needed unless rev'ing high. I would suggest a new set of valve springs and lifters as the springs over time will not be the same height.
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jamesy1990
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i hear nothing but good things about newman cams . but do they offer a package that includes pulleys?
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X16XE.Adam
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Not as far as im aware, i think they only specialise in camshafts.
May be a set of Kent pulleys would see you nicely.
Also if you got a spare few £££ laying around i would also recommend a lightened flywheel, allow the engine to rev much more freely, it makes such a big difference you wudn't believe it.
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Col004
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On my old corsa I fitted a mantzel, s/s blueflame exhaust with a de-cat, modded airbox and a courtney map up-load specific for the mantzel (superchip) and it made 141hp at well lane for a total vauxhall rr day. And for a 1600 with out mega mega mods it pulled well and pushed my mates 2.0 16v corsa. Thats why I went for a LET as doing all that work for a valver was'nt worth it.
[Edited on 12-01-2010 by Col004]
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jamesy1990
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like i said b4 im a machinest so il take my standered fly wheel stick it in the lathe and al skim it all up till its nice and true then al shed as much weaight as possible!
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quote:
Originally posted by Col004
On my old corsa I fitted a mantzel, s/s blueflame exhaust with a de-cat, modded airbox and a courtney map up-load specific for the mantzel (superchip) and it made 141hp at well lane for a total vauxhall rr day. And for a 1600 with out mega mega mods it pulled well and pushed my mates 2.0 16v corsa. Thats why I went for a LET as doing all that work for a valver was'nt worth it.
[Edited on 12-01-2010 by Col004]
thats the figures im hopeing for just wana prove that small blocks can keep up with your xe's!
i also own a xe corsa and i think there far to heavy front end ,so hopefully my 1600 will whip it all day long round the track
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X16XE.Adam
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I would put my money on the 1600 round the track as well, with uprated suspension it should kill it, as the XE will understeer like mad if going too fast into the corner.
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jamesy1990
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my point exactley adam!
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lostboy
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You'll be lucky to see more than 135 bhp to be honest, I'm doing a LOT more to my 1.6 16v and I'll be lucky to get more than 150 bhp as I wont be using carbs/throttle bodies.
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Col004
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Originally posted by lostboy
You'll be lucky to see more than 135 bhp to be honest, I'm doing a LOT more to my 1.6 16v and I'll be lucky to get more than 150 bhp as I wont be using carbs/throttle bodies.
i did it mate... think it just depends on how healthy the motor is
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X16XE.Adam
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Depends on that exactly.
Make sure valves are lapped in properly as any pits on the valves and it will lose air from the cylinder meaning less power. Also make sure that the pistons are sealed nicely with a compression test and compare that with the manafacturers data.
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quote:
Originally posted by Col004
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Originally posted by lostboy
You'll be lucky to see more than 135 bhp to be honest, I'm doing a LOT more to my 1.6 16v and I'll be lucky to get more than 150 bhp as I wont be using carbs/throttle bodies.
i did it mate... think it just depends on how healthy the motor is
I'm doing a full engine rebuild, bored out block 79.5mm high compression pistons, cams, p&p, inlet manifold, exhaust, remap, be lucky to see much over 150 I reckon.
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johnhara1
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How much torque will that 1.6 see with 150bhp?
Just wondering how it will compare to an XE.
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Col004
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I must of been a lucky fooker then
Good luck with the build though kid, sounds good.. Although im a LET boy i like to see more small blocks knocking about
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How much torque will that 1.6 see with 150bhp?
Just wondering how it will compare to an XE.
Wont see as much as a standard C20XE, I'll let you know in a few months when its built, bedded in, mapped and been on the rollers. If it makes over 150 bhp I'll be posting it on every forum I'm on
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Col004
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Originally posted by johnhara1
How much torque will that 1.6 see with 150bhp?
Just wondering how it will compare to an XE.
it wont pull near the torque an xe pulls due to the cc. but will be quick
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johnhara1
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I know that mate, that's why i wanted figures.
It'll have the revs too so it will be fun.
I like the 4k kick in the back that the XE has.
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quote:
Originally posted by Col004
On my old corsa I fitted a mantzel, s/s blueflame exhaust with a de-cat, modded airbox and a courtney map up-load specific for the mantzel (superchip) and it made 141hp at well lane for a total vauxhall rr day. And for a 1600 with out mega mega mods it pulled well and pushed my mates 2.0 16v corsa. Thats why I went for a LET as doing all that work for a valver was'nt worth it.
[Edited on 12-01-2010 by Col004]
it cnt av been that kwik the 2.0 mine beat type rs clio 182s leon cupras anything with upto 225 with out modded it does realy well even did well with 2.5v6 corsa thats around here at one point i thought i was gunna beat it until top end it had me 
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Linch
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Oh my lord....another thread!
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Ollie_B
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If you where to put vernier pulleys on, how would you set the timing up, as you cant use them with the cam sensor can you?
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Linch
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You get Dbilas ones which have the lobes on them.
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