RichR
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Originally posted by LiVe LeE
Adiohead; serious question now but can I ask Why you're a vegetarian?
because i don't want to eat animals 
I wasn't having a dig; I was meerly interested.
I sympathise with the vegitarian view but see it from aslightly different angle in that if an animal has been killed to be eaten (natural selection) then every part of that animal, where possible, should be used. I hate seeing waste or people throwing meat away. My family breed and rear our own Pigs, cattle, sheep, chickens and geese and we try to make use of every part of the animal. Even bones being used to produce stock - that way the animal hasn't died to end up in a landfill 
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I was also asking as I know a number of people who are vegitarian for different reasons. One doesn't like the idea of eating another living being; another does it as a personal protest towards how animals are kept and thinks they should be free to roam not fenced/caged in etc.; another doesn't like the taste and the final one is because her parents both are
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Fuck that.
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adiohead
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i knew you weren't having a dig. just could find the right smiley for my comment. i made it sound sarcastic, when really i just meant that it's 'that simple' for me.
it's good that you use every part. if a life is going to end then it should all get used up 
with millions starving around the world it's a shame we waste so much food 
i suppose it will eventually get used up on the landfill too. just a slower process.
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RichR
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My missus used to be so wasteful but I just have one rule in life and that is if there's meat on the plate, something has died and every part shoudl be appreciated. I'm not fussed about leaving veg etc but I do think the meat should all be eaten.
It used to really piss me off when I ran a pub/restaurant to see how much meat (and food in general) people wasted. I noticed more because our bins were billed by weight and the thought of how much we'd save alone if people just ate what they'd ordered
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Dom
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Lee, what do you do with fat on meat? EG: the grissle on a steak? Do you eat it?
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adiohead
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also, "It takes up to 16 pounds of grain to produce just 1 pound of edible animal flesh."
and then there's CO2 emissions. if CO2 was really a problem then something would/should be done about the meat industry.
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RichR
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Lee, what do you do with fat on meat? EG: the grissle on a steak? Do you eat it?
A lot gets trimmed off and used for stock etc and anything left on the meat, I tend to eat. Gristle is different to fat - its basically cartlidge.
We've got a deep freeze full of home made stocks/soup bases/mince etc
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RichR
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also, "It takes up to 16 pounds of grain to produce just 1 pound of edible animal flesh."
and then there's CO2 emissions. if CO2 was really a problem then something would/should be done about the meat industry.
ours live a fairly Organic life, living on 28 acres of land, including several acres of woodland and a couple of marshland, which means all of them get a healthy, mixed free range diet. We do have supplements in the winter, but most of the animals are slaughtered before winter hits; purely because keeping them over winter costs too much and doesnt yield the meat weight
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man up, eat some meat
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Conway563
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that's a myth. he just didn't eat a lot of meat.
http://www.naturalnews.com/025163_Hitler_vegetarian_vegetarianism.html
According to a some books, notably there are also a number of books that say he was
Either way meat tastes good and if people didn't eat them or their products a lot of animals wouldn't exist
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Originally posted by adiohead
that's a myth. he just didn't eat a lot of meat.
http://www.naturalnews.com/025163_Hitler_vegetarian_vegetarianism.html
According to a some books, notably there are also a number of books that say he was
Either way meat tastes good and if people didn't eat them or their products a lot of animals wouldn't exist
like whales?
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DaveyLC
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Originally posted by LiVe LeE
My missus used to be so wasteful but I just have one rule in life and that is if there's meat on the plate, something has died and every part shoudl be appreciated. I'm not fussed about leaving veg etc but I do think the meat should all be eaten.
It used to really piss me off when I ran a pub/restaurant to see how much meat (and food in general) people wasted. I noticed more because our bins were billed by weight and the thought of how much we'd save alone if people just ate what they'd ordered
Agree'd! I also agree with hunting as long as the animal is consumed!
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Conway563
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like whales?
I was thinking more cows TBH but I'll try eating anything
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RichR
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We do a lot of shooting around the grounds of the hotel my missus runs as they have a problem with Rabbits. She was quoted £2000 for someone to come in and gas the warrens which was not only expensive but intolerably cruel as well; so we shoot them for the pot. A lot of people round my way shoot pheasant/wood pigeon or fish for Trout etc so we trade a brace of rabbits for a brace of pheasants and so on - works really well and we've always got well stocked fridges/freezers
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Rob E
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My housemate is vegan and he cooks some fucking amazing meals. Currys, burios, pies, and my personal favourite is vegan bangers and mash with onion gravy  very tasty
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like whales?
I was thinking more cows TBH but I'll try eating anything
but the causes of extinction for wild cows were hunting, a narrowing of habitat due to the development of farming, climatic changes and diseases transmitted by domestic cattle.
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Conway563
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I'm just gonna agree to disagree
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jacko198
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Originally posted by DaveyLC
I LOVE meat
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adiohead
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Originally posted by Conway563
I'm just gonna agree to disagree
why?
what do you think were the extinction causes for wild cow?
[Edited on 10-03-2010 by adiohead]
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are baked beans vegan? Are there not animal products in the making of it? The recipes I've just checked on line contain butter and worcester sauce (anchovies)
I'm pretty sure a bean is a vegetable and so is a tomato? 
It's a pulse actually dave and the tomato is a fruit
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DaveyLC
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Meh! Pulse-shmulse!
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I didn't eat meat for about twenty years, but fuck being a Vegan. That's just fanaticism in my book and a surefire way to malnutrition if one isn't very carefull.
Plus it's such a pain in the arse having the ear surgery to get them pointy enough.
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Conway563
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what do you think were the extinction causes for wild cow?
At what point was I talking about that?
The point I was trying to make is if everyone goes vegan and stops eating meat, using leather etc where are cows gonna go? There's no need to keep them around or space as fields are gonna need to be filled with crops to eat instead
[Edited on 10-03-2010 by Conway563]
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