Rallycorsa
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Registered: 7th Dec 06
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Im a member of Tynemouth & District 60+ mile trip for me but its worth it for the banter :-) We have 8 cars out on the next two rallies so including the co drivers and service lads it makes for a cracking weekend away :-)
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Paul_J
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Registered: 6th Jun 02
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I'd love to do it ... but it's just the cost / feasibility.
... e.g.
Price of buying car / building the car.
Then something to carry the car (trailer / tow car).
Then somewhere to put the race car / tow car etc.
Then the money for the inevitable break downs / accidents.
Then the money for all the entries / tyres etc.
My dad used to race motorbikes and then raced cars. He's told me how much it all used to cost and there's no way I could afford it.
... Overall it'd cost a lot to even go very 'cheap' racing and even then there's a lot of feasibility to get over (e.g. land to store the vehicles on)
- The reason you've probably seen a decline in people doing it, is because this country is going down the toilet and no one can afford the luxury of wasting a lot of money going racing.
Unfortunately it's nothing like the computer games where if you win you can afford to buy another car. There is not money to be made in low level racing and therefore it is solely an expensive hobby.
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M16KE B
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Registered: 24th Feb 04
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Ive been doing the STRC for a few years now, and have recently stooped.
As said by a few members, its simply to expensive. the cost is mainting the car is to great for the about of action you get, and the entry fees alone are nigh on silly now.
Hillclimbing and sprint series offer way more value for money. ok, so the cost with regards to the car is the same, but generally ive found that entry fees is far less and the number of event is far far greater!
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a_j_mair
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Registered: 23rd Jan 04
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expense
wouldnt know where to start
time to do it as dont have time to do all the other things i want to / should be doing
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Eck
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Registered: 17th Apr 06
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If I could, I'd choose every option other than the MakyD's one!
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monty46
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Registered: 27th Jan 08
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too expensive for me. My mates dad used to rally a yellow mk2 escort back in the day and he talks about how much cheaper it was back then. Done a few rally days in a mark 2 but aiming to get my navigator license and start from there
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ed
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That's one other thing I didn't mention in my first post. I'd need to spend a couple of quid on a van and trailer. That's not going to be a massive expense but it all adds up. I'll get there one day when I have a real job 
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antnee
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Registered: 30th Dec 07
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Hopefully I will be able to get into easily once I've been to uni, should have lots of contacts by then too all going well
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SetH
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Registered: 15th Jul 01
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Paul_J echoes my thoughts on the subject.
Otherwise I would love to 
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Adam-D
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Registered: 11th May 02
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mix of 1 2 and 5
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Rallycorsa
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Thanks again there seems to be a common theme here cost ;-(
Its very difficult to get the cost and fun part balanced but you can get involved without the huge costs to start with. Co driving, marshalling and servicing is nearly as good for the crack without the cost.
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adiohead
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Registered: 28th Sep 01
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it's boring
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Rallycorsa
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Try being constructive.
Thankyou
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adiohead
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quote:
Originally posted by Rallycorsa
Try being constructive.
Thankyou
"would rather drive round MakyDs"
that's from your own poll. 
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Rallycorsa
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Fair enough thankyou for your input.
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adiohead
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anytime
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nick_sri
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it dosnt have to cost alot . there are diffrent levels . pick up a car for 2-3k and your ready to go 
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fir3vip3r
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Registered: 14th Jun 06
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quote:
Originally posted by Rallycorsa
Try being constructive.
Thankyou
Please ignore the people that cant be bothered in taking things seriously!
Hillclimbing is one thing ive looked at, but echoed in here is the cost factor, i know ive got somewhere to store the vehicle and know great mechanics that would do maintenance work etc for peanuts!
But its getting the time dedicated to do it, buying the car, buying all the bits! if you bin it etc
I had a root around various websites and just getting your licence etc sorted is a small fortune, especially if you pay for it and then decide its not for you/ lose your job.
For me car racing/rallying is'nt going to be an option until i can run a van, everyday car, and then the rally car on top of that!
But still i can dream 
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Rallycorsa
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I think part of this is how much you want it, also if there are a few together it can be costs shared.
I do agree the costs can be high but if you share a car or split entry costs it can be done.
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ChrisBoom
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Registered: 6th Dec 06
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I was going to enter my old 106 into the local sprints, but it needed a MSA license, then it was £180 just to enter, and you got maybe 8 laps in the whole weekend, then there was the cost of getting the car ready. Ill do it one day, once I have enough disposable income to warrant doing it.
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Ian
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Registered: 28th Aug 99
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I think the cost thing is a bit of a misnomer, a lot of people probably can afford to do it but put the money elsewhere. For example most people on here have at some point had a project road car that they've lavished a load of cash on, big stereo, few sets of wheels, retrim, paint, etc. That's thousands of pounds. It's not like people don't have the cash to prepare a competitive car.
Just they choose to do it to a road car instead - and ironically if they're stating that money is tight - lose more money when it's stripped/sold. A properly prepared rally car probably holds better money in terms of investment than for example bodywork on an older road car.
Most of the people I know who rally have to compromise elsewhere, ie. not drive a flash car day-to-day.
The main reason for me is that compared to just doing track days, I would see it as a bit too much like hard work! If I do a track day I can turn up, have a drive at my own pace as hard or easy as I want to. If the car breaks there's not really any pressure to fix it.
It's just more 'relaxed'.
Rallys I've watched and been around the paddocks on, it's clearly a working day. Checking the cars between stages, everything is just more critical in a competitive event.
That's before we've even mentioned stage rallys and pace notes
Worrying about going the wrong way would well slow me down!
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dhdev
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I voted too expensive, even though I'll be completing my first season of racing this year.
I'm competing in the VAG trophy, which is aimed at being affordable racing, but is still a rich man's game. I'm extremely fortunate in that I'm being given a car to use for the season, plus the services and use of a friend with a van, trailer and extensive knowledge of Mk2 Golfs. The costs are still extremely high though:-
Race entry - Approx £200 per race (x6 = £1200)
MSA Nat B licence - £400
Race suit - £300
Helmet - £100+
Gloves/boots - £150
Transponder - £30 per race (x6 £180, or purchase for £200 S/H)
So that's already £2.5k + the costs of fuel, tyres, brakes, damage etc etc etc without having to build a car or have a van and trailer at your disposal. As I said, expensive game...
[Edited on 12-05-2010 by dhdev]
[Edited on 12-05-2010 by dhdev]
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Rob-e91
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Registered: 11th May 09
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I love rallying my brother inlaw does alot and i go an service for him, He's got a 1600 nova- serious bit of kit
But i dont think i'd be able to afford to do it myself, as it costs him an arm and a leg for each event,
You got to pay for,
Petrol there and back
Petrol for the rally car
entry fee
Tyres
Sometimes co driver
Sometimes hotel
Just that is atleast a few hundred quid, but i'd say its well worth it
it's definitely something i'd do in the future when im on more money
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fir3vip3r
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
I think the cost thing is a bit of a misnomer, a lot of people probably can afford to do it but put the money elsewhere. For example most people on here have at some point had a project road car that they've lavished a load of cash on, big stereo, few sets of wheels, retrim, paint, etc. That's thousands of pounds. It's not like people don't have the cash to prepare a competitive car.
Just they choose to do it to a road car instead - and ironically if they're stating that money is tight - lose more money when it's stripped/sold. A properly prepared rally car probably holds better money in terms of investment than for example bodywork on an older road car.
Most of the people I know who rally have to compromise elsewhere, ie. not drive a flash car day-to-day.
The main reason for me is that compared to just doing track days, I would see it as a bit too much like hard work! If I do a track day I can turn up, have a drive at my own pace as hard or easy as I want to. If the car breaks there's not really any pressure to fix it.
It's just more 'relaxed'.
Rallys I've watched and been around the paddocks on, it's clearly a working day. Checking the cars between stages, everything is just more critical in a competitive event.
That's before we've even mentioned stage rallys and pace notes
Worrying about going the wrong way would well slow me down!
A nice road car is more easily justified though! most people will use them daily so is really more appealing than spending all that money on a car used a few weekends a year!
I agree if i tightened my belt and had a cheaper road car, it would probably be feasible to buy/run a rally/hill climb vehicle! Its just how and what you enjoy at the end of the day, which takes preference
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Ian
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For me it's far more about priorities than outright cash.
Most people on this board could potentially throw 5-8k at it per year and not be any worse off than they are losing that in depreciation on their main vehicle.
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