Warren G
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http://www.ozebiz.com.au/racetech/theory/align.html
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VegasPhil
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Yeah, you can see it's been fitted slightly wrong. Was a pain in the arse holding all of that together on my car, i defo remember putting the balljoint inside the lower arm  . Stress probably helped break it.
Corsa 2.0 16v Vegas - Sold
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DaveyLC
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Sadly you'll need more evidence than that to claim.. You need to prove the depth (piece of wood and a tape measure). Also they may argue your car is 'non standard'.. Worth a crack though! 
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Dale
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Originally posted by Warren G
im confused by your handling set up. lowering the tie bars on the arms, is surely not helping?
i saw your top mounts and you have moved the caster towards the front of the car, when you idealy want it towards the rear of the car...
Maybe I will agree about the top mounts being forward giving me more caster which makes the car more "sketchy" at higher speeds! which i will be changing for next year as It was nicer to drive...
As for the tie bars as said before i am running f28 which has a larger casing so its highly advise to lower the tie arm ie fitting lower ball joint spacers and the plates on the front of the cross member which I have!! I can't see how its not helping all its done is moved the tie bar lower when its mounts evenly still!
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Originally posted by Warren G
the ball joint in the pic is below the lower arm...
as is mine which snapped???
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Warren G
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above lower arm
below lower arm
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Dale
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Originally posted by DRS
Only difference is in picture 1 the ball joint in mounted inside the arm but I can't personally seeing it making that much difference in respect of stress to the ball joint, geometry yes but I had all that setup and was fine....
I stated that and I will change it But I personally think it boils down to a faults/cheap lower ball joint So im going to try genuine item
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Warren G
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not even cheap, mine snapped and was genuine i beleive
i was lucky, heard a chunk under braking, went around a around about, slowerly and it snapped and done same as yours, though i only need a new joint and arch
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corsadonk
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Only difference is in picture 1 the ball joint in mounted inside the arm but I can't personally seeing it making that much difference in respect of stress to the ball joint, geometry yes but I had all that setup and was fine....
[Edited on 17-10-2010 by DRS]
You'd be surprised bud, think how easy it is to snap a seized bolt, over 250lbft going into something made for 100 max with a open diff
Poor Harley she must a nervous wreck going into a car now.
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Dale
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quote:
Originally posted by Warren G
not even cheap, mine snapped and was genuine i beleive
i was lucky, heard a chunk under braking, went around a around about, slowerly and it snapped and done same as yours, though i only need a new joint and arch
Yer i understand what your saying, it doesn't help that I'm running alot more than standard power throw it and doing 1/4miles and traffic light games etc etc so thats putting alot more stress on them! I will do some more research into them and what other people are using as my car isn't stupidly powerful in respect of LET conversion corsa etc
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Jambo
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Originally posted by CorsAsh
Isn't this what finished off scriv's/brandfincham's Corsa? Everyone blamed the 19" wheels at the time.
How odd this is what I was thinking also!
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Dale
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quote:
Originally posted by corsadonk
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Only difference is in picture 1 the ball joint in mounted inside the arm but I can't personally seeing it making that much difference in respect of stress to the ball joint, geometry yes but I had all that setup and was fine....
[Edited on 17-10-2010 by DRS]
You'd be surprised bud, think how easy it is to snap a seized bolt, over 250lbft going into something made for 100 max with a open diff
Poor Harley she must a nervous wreck going into a car now.
yer true ill change the ball joints and try again next year lol
Bah she was fine, she still isn't keen on the country driving!!!
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CorsAsh
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quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
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Originally posted by CorsAsh
Isn't this what finished off scriv's/brandfincham's Corsa? Everyone blamed the 19" wheels at the time.
How odd this is what I was thinking also!
Mwah xxx
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Ben G
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some old twat will be posting this on leaflets next week telling everyone your driving caused skidmarks. tut tut.
unlucky mate can't believe the damage just by a pothole. hate them.
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AK
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that spacer wont push the strut forward though, just the arm lower
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AK
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quote:
Originally posted by DRS
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Originally posted by Warren G
im confused by your handling set up. lowering the tie bars on the arms, is surely not helping?
i saw your top mounts and you have moved the caster towards the front of the car, when you idealy want it towards the rear of the car...
Maybe I will agree about the top mounts being forward giving me more caster which makes the car more "sketchy" at higher speeds! which i will be changing for next year as It was nicer to drive...
You want to move the stut top back... to give 'more' castor.
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gez bay
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thats your problem imo, the cheap and nasty ball joint. I snapped 2 of them, put a genuine ball joint on and never had problems then. Think they're £50 each from vaux
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Adam-D
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u2u sent
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3CorsaMeal
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i spy with my little eye, something beginning with C 
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mwg
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clio?
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mattk
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lol a corrado
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mwg
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go and spoil the wind up why don't you  next thing to say should of been chav or coat
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mattk
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didnt even see your post when I posted, I went for a piss after I opened the thread
sorry
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Nick-S
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
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Originally posted by DRS
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Originally posted by Warren G
im confused by your handling set up. lowering the tie bars on the arms, is surely not helping?
i saw your top mounts and you have moved the caster towards the front of the car, when you idealy want it towards the rear of the car...
Maybe I will agree about the top mounts being forward giving me more caster which makes the car more "sketchy" at higher speeds! which i will be changing for next year as It was nicer to drive...
You want to move the stut top back... to give 'more' castor.
Exactly what i was thinking.
Also if u add more castor (strut tops back) dosent that also improve the self centering effect of the stearing, Thus take away the "sketchyness" at higher speeds?
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Dale
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Yep that's why I will be moving them back as said prevously!!! As said I think it's the shite cheap ball joints tbh!
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alan-g-w
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Sorry if I've missed something but why's the ball joint attached to the top of the lower arm? Mine is 'inside' it and the bolts go through holes in the bottom all the way into the tie bar I think it is (the thing the ARB bolts to) So in theory yours was sitting about 5-10mm too high? That would cause the extra strain would it not?
Edit, just worked it out. Surely if the only reason it's like that is for the tie bar to miss the gearbox a modified tie bar would be the answer, not changing how the suspension's set up?
[Edited on 18-10-2010 by alan-g-w]
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