Jambo
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Alan there will be exceptions but every single thing I slumped on with my gf's GSI with pattern parts didn't fit properly or lasted 5mins. I'm sure you had good experiences but the experiences I have had is buy cheap buy twice. As for professional mechanics they will be wanted to make a profit, that will be the reason not because they are better.
I bought my Z3m and the pattern part brake pads he had fitted before I bought it where fucking laughable. Go over bumps they rattled in their holders when brakes applied the clicked and made interesting squeaking noises. Fitted gen BMW parts and it was fine all noises ceased
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3CorsaMeal
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i fitted a pattern part coilpack to the corrado, and pattern leads, think thats the only non-geniune parts i've used on it, felt dirty but they have been fine for tens of thousands of miles so far
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Steve
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i think pattern parts have there place, certain things will be ok, i dont normally fit pattern on anything that is load bearing though
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Jambo
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Would lower arms be ok Steve?
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Steve
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no
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alan-g-w
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Fair enough there are some things that you'd use a gen part over 3 party, just a couple of weeks ago I was looking for a lambda for the corsa and wanted to get it from Vaux, £60 compared to the £30 universal part, but I wanted to be sure it was proper. I ended up not able to get the vaux one due to time constraints but the one from the motor factor's doing fine just now. I know what you mean about not using some pattern parts but if you apply common sense it should be fine.
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Steve
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i recently purchased a 3rd party abs sensor, seems quality is similar to the OEM, seems a lottery to what is decent and what is not
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alan-g-w
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Aye agreed, that's where the common sense comes in.
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Fad
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Depends what pattern parts you buy as some offer OE equivelants like brake pads, clutches etc.
I ordered patterned OE rear discs for my Clio and they came in a Renault box......
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Steve
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same as the ATE aftermarket ABS sensors are what ford use
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tom130691
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originals did 85k
a retard put some shit ones in that lasted 1 day and about ten miles resulting in this
current have done 10k fitted by the RAC at the side of the road when above happend
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Jambo
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Non oem lambdas on Clios don't work properly
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AshWatson
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quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
Non oem lambdas on Clios don't work properly
can i ask what makes u say this ?
im assuming you've had a bad expierence with them, and i 100% understand non oem parts often dont fit properly and i am not for one moment saying your lying just wondered what makes u specifcally say,
ive fitted a non oem lambda to a 54 reg clio sport 182 and everything was fine 
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Mike
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I fitted pattern rear bearings back in December 05 when my car had done less than 40k, nearly 5 years and just over 60k on, they're still fine
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alan-g-w
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quote:
Originally posted by saxo_tom
originals did 85k
a retard put some shit ones in that lasted 1 day and about ten miles resulting in this
[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs096.ash2/38162_10150224721505287_742365286_13578677_4465691_n.jpg[/img
current have done 10k fitted by the RAC at the side of the road when above happend
Unless the bearing was totally fucked in the manufacturing of it that wouldn't happen just with 'shit ones', more likely that said retard tightened them up far too much
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Nic Barnes
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i have non genuine rear wheel bearings. i need to change the passenger side one before the weekend as quite a bit of play in wheel. i dont know when they were last changed. this si the first time in 5 years ive done them since owning the car.
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SportBoy
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nothing wrong with most pattern parts. we have fitted lots of genuine stuff in the past which has fvcked up.
if its a sensor etc id say get genuine.. alltho we have has a few genuine sensors etc be faulty.
as for the pic above it wont be the 'shit part' at fault but it will be the retard who fitted it.
[Edited on 03-11-2010 by SportBoy]
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Limecat
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If your bearings aren't lasting it is as already pointed out, they have been fitted wrongly. They are a taper bearing so getting it spot on is crucial.
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alan-g-w
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Ignore the Haynes since it tells you to do them up to 50Nm then angle tighten 50degrees, fuck that.
I tighten them up then check for play in the wheel. I eliminate as much play as is possible until you can only just feel a tiny teeny wee bit of play by tightening and loosening the hub nut a bit at a time.
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Jambo
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Yes Ash mine is currently giving me shite mpg it's not a pattern part either it's a Bosch one but the aftermarket ones are different to the Renault Bosch part somehow. Do a search on Cliosport it's been covered alot!
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tom130691
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quote:
Originally posted by alan-g-w
Unless the bearing was totally fucked in the manufacturing of it that wouldn't happen just with 'shit ones', more likely that said retard tightened them up far too much
as far as i am aware it was more him than the bearing but they were only £5 each
couldnt see much grease in what was left and it looked like he didnt change the tracers
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SnK
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Dont tighten them to a torque. Thats just to cover haynes or manufacturers arses. Hand tighten them and get a screwdriver, wiggle until you can just move the toothed washer with some force. Then later if required nip up a little more. Thats all you need.
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Fro
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I've had noise similar to bearings but ended up being loud tyres.
Edit: I had to nip the bearings up on my golf the other week as whoever replaced them didnt do them tight enough.
[Edited on 04-11-2010 by fro-dizzle]
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harrisp
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quote:
Originally posted by saxo_tom
originals did 85k
a retard put some shit ones in that lasted 1 day and about ten miles resulting in this
current have done 10k fitted by the RAC at the side of the road when above happend
That is bad fitting not bad bearings, both my corsas had pattern wheel bearing one had fronts and rears and I did probably 50k in those cars without a problem.
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willay
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I've used pattern parts on alot of the cars I've driven, had no problems at all. Brake pads, discs, rear bearing (like the ones I'm currently running on my astra track car) to name a few and I've had 0 issues. Must be down to the installation not the part quality.
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