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Registered: 5th Jul 00
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6th Dec 10 at 14:25

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
I would stick with a 16, lose some weight and just drive it faster. If the car has proper tyres and brakes then it'll be prepared enough to warrant spending a bit of time learning it.

makes a lot of sense....

Get it handling well (susp, brakes & tyres) before upping the power (and upping the unreliability

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Ojc

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Registered: 14th Nov 00
Location: Reading: Drives : Clio 197
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6th Dec 10 at 14:28

Inlet makes the car basically what it should have been in the first place so nothing bad there.

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6th Dec 10 at 14:30

weight....

Make it a lot lighter (at the front) rather than power....

but reading between the lines it'll be used on roads too? Does that mean lexan windows, GRP panels/wings etc are ruled out?

Ojc

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6th Dec 10 at 14:36

Yeah man not going to silly with it, maybe a light weight bonnet as current one is a touch rusty.

125bhp and around 850kg is a nice round figure to aim for IMO.

smcGSI16V

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Registered: 26th May 03
Location: Farnborough Drives: Thurlby 888 CDTi No.98
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6th Dec 10 at 16:42

Oh dear Olli.

Mine was pretty handy as a small block.
It can be done cheapish having a small block track carish.

If I was doing i again I would still go small block. And I would still do the same things I done.

Ojc

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6th Dec 10 at 16:48

What was your suspension spec Stu?

smcGSI16V

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Registered: 26th May 03
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6th Dec 10 at 16:56

Not the best if Im being honest. I would have changed to coilovers if I had the chance and money.

It was totally polybushed everywhere
Whiteline rear arb
Apex front shocks and 40mm springs
Apex rear shocks and I think 300lb rear springs lowered about 90mm
Obviously the cage stiffened it up shit loads.

So it was softish front, very stiff rear. Which I liked. None or little understeer, oversteery if you wanted to induce it. But quite nuturally balanced.

You know what I mean.

Ojc

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6th Dec 10 at 16:57

Where did you get your rear springs from Stu as yours sat and handled lovely?

smcGSI16V

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Registered: 26th May 03
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6th Dec 10 at 16:59

I got them of

Dave A

Ojc

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6th Dec 10 at 16:59

Oh shit

SAL

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Registered: 19th Dec 05
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6th Dec 10 at 17:07

Budget on suspension ?

Ojc

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6th Dec 10 at 17:09

Not sure until new year, if I sell the Astra and buy Stu's Veccy GSi then skys the limit.

smcGSI16V

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6th Dec 10 at 17:09

Coilsprings are where he sourced all his springs from though and they would be able to make them for you to your spec. I just used him as somebody to get them to a spec he suggested and they worked great.

So at least he got one thing right.

SAL

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Registered: 19th Dec 05
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6th Dec 10 at 17:10

Did you just say sell the astra for a vec

smcGSI16V

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6th Dec 10 at 17:11

The mad man wants my one.

Scotty C

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6th Dec 10 at 18:31

quote:
Originally posted by Ojc

125bhp and around 850kg is a nice round figure to aim for IMO.

That was EXCATLY my bhp/weight ratio in my old corsa. Went well.

Warren G

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6th Dec 10 at 18:43

id buy a 172 and strip it out

Butler

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6th Dec 10 at 18:56

As above

sc0ott

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6th Dec 10 at 18:57

I knew that was coming.

gavin18787

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6th Dec 10 at 19:03

x16 or a warren special.

But think how good stu's was with the spec it had

Drives supercharged Tec with torque

Graeme

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6th Dec 10 at 19:09

It's exactly what I am doing at the moment but I need mine for road rallying (12 car navigational stuff) and aldintrack stuff so what I'm doing is updated shocks and -40mm springs. 15's with good all round tyres.

Stripping it right down withtwo buckets, harnesses and a half cage, strut braces. And then going to remove the aircon as it's s huge part I just font need and then will make it alot easier to work in the engine bay. Am also thinking bout removing the power steering but not sure bout that yet.

I have a 1.6 in mine.

Also will have fiberglass bonnet and boot eventually as mine are rusty.

Steve X16XE

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Registered: 31st Dec 06
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6th Dec 10 at 19:12

quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Yeah man not going to silly with it, maybe a light weight bonnet as current one is a touch rusty.

125bhp and around 850kg is a nice round figure to aim for IMO.

Mine was 125.2 bhp and 840kgs. Works out at 150 bhp/ton, so not too shabby. It was very fun to drive and very nippy. My problem was that it just did not handle well and it really put me off the car.

So i'd say, get the sus and brakes done 1st, then look at the powar!

If you go for the plastic windows and Fiber Glass bonnet and boot, it should make it under 800kgs.

Steve X16XE

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6th Dec 10 at 19:18

This is the poundage them springs were from Dave A. He got them made up from GAZ. So i'm sure if you asked the company nicely....

Ojc

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6th Dec 10 at 19:45

Nova rear

I know they work but the Nova is a lot lighter on the rear.

gavin18787

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6th Dec 10 at 19:46

225lb sounds alot also

I run 150 on the saxo with billy b8s a little soft but I think 180ish to 200 would be bang on

Drives supercharged Tec with torque

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