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XE Col
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5th Jan 11 at 21:08   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

In saying that my mum has an 04 Punto since new and never had a problem
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Right, it's an 07 car. It had a 3 year 100k warranty, like my Alfa did. You look after your cars. Time to start some angry letters to Fiat HQ. Another letter to trading standards. Get at least SOME of that money back. Moaning about it isn't going to do anything mate, take some action and get some compensation!

[Edited on 05-01-2011 by pow]
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Ouch. Oh well all things considered it's not THAT bad?

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Right, it's an 07 car. It had a 3 year 100k warranty, like my Alfa did. You look after your cars. Time to start some angry letters to Fiat HQ. Another letter to trading standards. Get at least SOME of that money back.


Dads 3year old RR blew up due to porous head. Fsh etc they wouldn't give him a dime
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
Right, it's an 07 car. It had a 3 year 100k warranty, like my Alfa did. You look after your cars. Time to start some angry letters to Fiat HQ. Another letter to trading standards. Get at least SOME of that money back. Moaning about it isn't going to do anything mate, take some action and get some compensation!

[Edited on 05-01-2011 by pow]


This TBH i wouldnt be happy at having to fork out all that money,

Not that you are happy but shouldnt just sit back and pay it, without saying anything, nothing to lose even if you gain nothing
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Don't ask don't get though eh? I've heard as many success stories as let downs like yours.

Audi did a headgasket and wheel bearing on Dad's 2.5 year old 120k A3 a few years back, technically out of warranty due tot he milage.
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Andrews imaginary Punto has also been fine
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FixItAgainTomorrow
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pow - don't worry, I intend to go all the way with this.

Also hasn't been a year since I bought it so going to look into the Sales of Goods Act, but this is more appropriate for 6 months.
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Good stuff

Have you got a courtesy car?
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Good stuff

Have you got a courtesy car?

Yeah - from the garage I initially got recovered too. I believe the £1015 is trade price too as I'm going through the local garage. I haven't once spoken to Fiat how long I have this car I don't know but I will demand a courtesy car from Fiat.

Also requested Service Bulletin 7002.10 to be carried out. This is a new drain pipe to stop water from the windscreen ending up on the alternator and freezing the fucker. Might be worth the check with your MiTo!

[Edited on 05-01-2011 by deano87]
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Mines a diesel one and doesn't suffer from that problem.

Just has the worlds most tappy engine.

[Edited on 05-01-2011 by pow]
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Well, bit of an update.

It seems I was suffering from 'sticky valves' - a build up of carbon. Considerably amount of work being done to the head and valves to re-sear them. This resulted in the detonation which must have been ongoing for some time.

Reasons?

They blame stop start journeys and the engine not getting hot - not even 4 years old on 43k miles so I don't buy that. It had done 19k in 2 years, so a bit low, but not massively low.

Wrong oil - anyone's guess really.

Poor service history - I've checked the book and although the 1st service wasn't done for 2 years/19k miles. Intervals are 18k miles and they do not stipulate per annum. They do recommend an annual check for low mileage vehicles. An oil and filter change is supposed to happen. However at the bottom of the page it stipulates 2 years the oil has to change therefore misleading information.

Going to compile plenty of information and will write to Fiat I think.
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Should of used super unleaded...
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Build up of carbon happens when the car is used for granny driving about, cars do need a roasting now and again, as they are burning carbon based fuel in a mechanical device, not magic.
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Build up of carbon happens when the car is used for granny driving about, cars do need a roasting now and again, as they are burning carbon based fuel in a mechanical device, not magic.


I tell my girlfriend this. She has a 2005 mini with 20k miles on the clock (as of last week), and she about cries when i take it to 6500+ rpm

Also, im sure it 6600 rpm in second gear and then 7000 in third.....96 miles an hour on the limiter

It ticked over nicer after some abuse the other day. It use to idle quiet uncomfortably.
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Needs bouncing off the limiter a bit more
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Needs bouncing off the limiter a bit more


For sustained periods of time.
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Build up of carbon happens when the car is used for granny driving about, cars do need a roasting now and again, as they are burning carbon based fuel in a mechanical device, not magic.

I know, and I did give it a good hammering now and again. So certainly didn't hang about. Plus my commute is motorway, therefore definitely getting warm. Incidentally the ecoDRIVE as part of the Blue&Me system which advises on economical driving. It says to not rev above 2500rpm. What a load of bollocks.

Mixture of issues I guess culminating in a hefty bill.

At least I know it should be good from now on if I treat it right.
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I know, and I did give it a good hammering now and again. So certainly didn't hang about. Plus my commute is motorway, therefore definitely getting warm. Incidentally the ecoDRIVE as part of the Blue&Me system which advises on economical driving. It says to not rev above 2500rpm. What a load of bollocks.

Mixture of issues I guess culminating in a hefty bill.

At least I know it should be good from now on if I treat it right.


You dont seem the type of person to know what a good hammering is!

My dads idea of a good hammering is about 4k rpm in 2nd gear, then through the other gears at normal revs. Buy your posts/choices of cars, i imagine this to be the case.
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FYI it stores over revs in the ecu, just hope it hasnt been bounced off the limiter alot by the previous owner otherwise you'll get nowhere with Fiat.

As I said via pm, fiat goodwill are pretty good if you put up a good argument
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quote:
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Needs bouncing off the limiter a bit more


For sustained periods of time.


rag it all over the parish m8
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
quote:
Originally posted by mwg
Needs bouncing off the limiter a bit more


For sustained periods of time.


rag it all over the parish m8


parish
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quote:
Originally posted by deano87
I know, and I did give it a good hammering now and again. So certainly didn't hang about. Plus my commute is motorway, therefore definitely getting warm. Incidentally the ecoDRIVE as part of the Blue&Me system which advises on economical driving. It says to not rev above 2500rpm. What a load of bollocks.

Mixture of issues I guess culminating in a hefty bill.

At least I know it should be good from now on if I treat it right.


You dont seem the type of person to know what a good hammering is!

My dads idea of a good hammering is about 4k rpm in 2nd gear, then through the other gears at normal revs. Buy your posts/choices of cars, i imagine this to be the case.

I've taken it to the red line on numerous times, but don't like doing it when the engine is really really cold for obvious reasons.

Just because I don't have 'performance cars', it doesn't mean I don't drive them hard...

I do happen to keep revs low, i.e. when sitting at 30mph through town I'll have it in 4th. May be because of the longer rev range in this than the Corsa I should keep it in 3rd, for example.
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Originally posted by Kurt
FYI it stores over revs in the ecu, just hope it hasnt been bounced off the limiter alot by the previous owner otherwise you'll get nowhere with Fiat.

As I said via pm, fiat goodwill are pretty good if you put up a good argument

I believe the garage did an ECU reset before they took the head off to no avail. I'm sure the garage would have mentioned it before now. Especially as I've said I'm going to approach Fiat myself.

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