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John

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6th Jan 11 at 13:11

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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
so if i bought an old electric forklift truck and a metro, do you reckon i could make my own?

http://hackaday.com/2011/01/05/hacking-a-hack-electric-hybrid-geo-metro/

This guy has done exactly that, albeit with a geo metro (Brandon Flowers first car for anyone who didn't know)

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6th Jan 11 at 13:14

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quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
so if i bought an old electric forklift truck and a metro, do you reckon i could make my own?

http://hackaday.com/2011/01/05/hacking-a-hack-electric-hybrid-geo-metro/

This guy has done exactly that, albeit with a geo metro (Brandon Flowers first car for anyone who didn't know)

flol

this guy is deffo me

http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Plug-In-Hybrid-Car/

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6th Jan 11 at 13:35

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Actually I don't see why so much effort goes into new energy sources to run vehicles when diesels run on cooking oil. If we ran out of oil tomorrow surely we could just use all the existing diesel cars with cooking oil/biodisel

People need to eat food. Not put it in their cars.

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6th Jan 11 at 13:41

One other point. An electric motor is far superior to a combustion engine, you can tell by looking at all the hardware you need to get power to the wheels with a petrol engine. Also, the need for a gearbox shows how inherently flawed it is having such a narrow torque and power band.

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6th Jan 11 at 14:01

Am I the only one who can see them taking off then?

Slowly, and I'm not planning on buying one myself just yet, but if several manufacturers make their new electric models available, infrastructure will develop to support them, charging times will fall etc etc.

Might take 20 years, but I don't expect to be driving a petrol/diesel car for the rest of my lifetime.

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6th Jan 11 at 14:21

Of course they'll take off, but I don't think they'll be battery powered. Cars will have some form of generating their own electricity on board - manufacturers are investing into this type of technology quite heavily

chrisritch

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6th Jan 11 at 14:29

The new Nissan Leaf looks quite smart tbh

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6th Jan 11 at 15:04

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Of course they'll take off, but I don't think they'll be battery powered. Cars will have some form of generating their own electricity on board - manufacturers are investing into this type of technology quite heavily

Isn't that what the hydrogen ones do? Like the Honda Insight that James May drove?

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6th Jan 11 at 15:05

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The technology is there for alternatives to fossil fuel, but due to the fact that the oil companies run the world they won't allow it to happen.

A way to harness perpetual motion was basically discovered in the 50's and was quickly hushed up and swept under the carpets.

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6th Jan 11 at 15:06

by the way its quite easy to get a car to be powered by water, but govts. would never allow it

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6th Jan 11 at 15:11

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quote:
Originally posted by ed
Of course they'll take off, but I don't think they'll be battery powered. Cars will have some form of generating their own electricity on board - manufacturers are investing into this type of technology quite heavily

Isn't that what the hydrogen ones do? Like the Honda Insight that James May drove?

Indeed it is. There's the Jag CX-75 with the turbine powered generators which burn diesel and various applications of the Lotus Omnivore engine which is used to run a generator. If you can generate electricity at a decent efficiency then you're sorted. Hydrogen is an achievable goal too, they're just not quite there with it yet.

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6th Jan 11 at 15:13

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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
The technology is there for alternatives to fossil fuel, but due to the fact that the oil companies run the world they won't allow it to happen.

A way to harness perpetual motion was basically discovered in the 50's and was quickly hushed up and swept under the carpets.

Didn't realise the oil companies were in charge of the laws of thermodynamics.

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6th Jan 11 at 15:13

Ed will you build me an eco car?

[Edited on 06-01-2011 by 3CorsaMeal]

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6th Jan 11 at 15:17

If I get the job I want then I will hopefully play a small part in doing that

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6th Jan 11 at 15:20

Ed, do I remember right that you work for Birmingham uni?

I know Birmingham, coventry and Loughborough are working together on eco car stuff, they had a little funny car like a G Whizz on the suspension test rig at Cov before Christmas

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6th Jan 11 at 15:23

European car of the year is electric iirc so they must be making some

The instant power is what makes them interesting, telstra roadster is quite quick iirc

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6th Jan 11 at 15:30

quote:
Originally posted by ed

quote:
Originally posted by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
The technology is there for alternatives to fossil fuel, but due to the fact that the oil companies run the world they won't allow it to happen.

A way to harness perpetual motion was basically discovered in the 50's and was quickly hushed up and swept under the carpets.

Didn't realise the oil companies were in charge of the laws of thermodynamics.

They run the world, that is all that matters. Mostly Jews.

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6th Jan 11 at 15:32

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European car of the year is electric iirc so they must be making some

The instant power is what makes them interesting, telstra roadster is quite quick iirc

Tesla tbh

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6th Jan 11 at 15:37

Stupid iPhone

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6th Jan 11 at 17:15

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Originally posted by LeeM
Actually I don't see why so much effort goes into new energy sources to run vehicles when diesels run on cooking oil. If we ran out of oil tomorrow surely we could just use all the existing diesel cars with cooking oil/biodisel

You could but if EVERYONE used veg oil there would be no space for food crops.

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6th Jan 11 at 17:17

Hydrogen fuel cells are defo the future as you can't run out of hydrogen EVER. Also fuel cells are gay because its just added complexity when you could burn it in an internal combustion engine, both still need a hydrogen tank so both are just as safe/unsafe.

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6th Jan 11 at 17:19

Also nuclear powered could be a distant thing too as you wouldn't have to refill for 30+ years and by that time its may be easy to dispose of the waste.

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6th Jan 11 at 17:38

i was once told to think outside of the box, all i could come up with is the parcel tape and address label

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6th Jan 11 at 18:18

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Also nuclear powered could be a distant thing too as you wouldn't have to refill for 30+ years and by that time its may be easy to dispose of the waste.

Apparantly the yanks tried that in the 50s

I read something somewhere that said Hydrogen can be used as a fuel in internal combustion engine. No need to fuck about with cells or motors etc just replace petrol with hydrogen.

John

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6th Jan 11 at 18:24

Is shielding not more of a problem than waste disposal?

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