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Gary

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5th Apr 11 at 08:09

Tempted the run the Berlingo on it (1.9 n/a) but as it's French indot really wanna give it any more reason to break.

sand-eel

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5th Apr 11 at 13:52

quote:
Originally posted by corsatdi
Wouldnt mind trying this with my 1.7 lump but would be a bit worried!

The 1.5d/ 1.5td/ 1.7d/ 1.7td are all fine.

sand-eel

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5th Apr 11 at 13:54

quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
It will fuck a common rail engine

Aye they can't even run on bio-diesel, so have no hope on veg.

harrisp

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5th Apr 11 at 13:56

quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel

quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
It will fuck a common rail engine

Aye they can't even run on bio-diesel, so have no hope on veg.

veg is biodiesel

sand-eel

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5th Apr 11 at 13:57

It isn't...veg is veg, bio-diesel is made from veg oil but is chemically changed to make it much thinner.

s4k1b

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5th Apr 11 at 14:08

do not use in a modern high pressure injected diesel engine.

will run fine with a corsa 1.5d 1.7d and the old peugeot 306 1.9d and the old cavalier 1.7d (the isuzu engine)

anything old and rattley it will probably work

these new 'performance' diesels dont even think about it. anything 2001+ i really wouldnt bother.

harrisp

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5th Apr 11 at 14:15

quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
It isn't...veg is veg, bio-diesel is made from veg oil but is chemically changed to make it much thinner.

Fair enough but there isnt much difference anyway.

emicen

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5th Apr 11 at 16:18

quote:
Originally posted by harrisp

quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
It isn't...veg is veg, bio-diesel is made from veg oil but is chemically changed to make it much thinner.

Fair enough but there isnt much difference anyway.

Veg oil vs. RME is a pretty big difference tbh, you're chemically altering the hydrocarbon chains to get the difference in viscosity.

I would agree there's not much difference between chem-processed veg and the bio-diesel tesco etc blend with their normal diesel though.

Seem to remember heating oil works quite well.

pow

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5th Apr 11 at 16:23

The 106 has to have a bosch pump otherwise it'll fuck the pump up.

sand-eel

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5th Apr 11 at 17:33

You can use kerosine as thats cheap but illegal, but how the hell would your average copper know the difference.

emicen

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5th Apr 11 at 17:40

quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
You can use kerosine as thats cheap but illegal, but how the hell would your average copper know the difference.

Depends how switched on they are, pretty sure the exhaust smells different so if you booted it off infront of them they'd get a clue.

There's those mobile units that emissions test etc in Glasgow, they might well dip fuel as well like the teams do at Harthill.

Having said that, be pretty unlucky to get caught imho.

Steve

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5th Apr 11 at 17:41

veg you can tell easily by the smell smells like cooking chips

Grufman

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5th Apr 11 at 17:58

I do deliveries for Chinese Take away in my local town 3 nyts a week and I'm planning on buying a 1.5td corsa to do them in while I save for my b project. Is this fully legit and safe to use? I have access to basically unlimited supply of used veg oil so would be ridiculously handy for me. How often should I change the filters etc?

Steve

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5th Apr 11 at 18:00

its not legal afaik, you have to pay duty if you are using it to fuel your car

Rich H

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5th Apr 11 at 18:03

Yup as Steve says, technically you're meant to pay tax on it - which would still make it cheaper than diesel, but not by so much.

If you get caught running on it and not paying tax, you're likely to land yourself a big fine.

I know the old D-Turbo pugs for example you were best off running it on a specific make of fuel pump.

Grufman

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5th Apr 11 at 18:04

So if I met customs one day in it they wouldn't be able to do anything? :/ umm... very interesting idea.

Steve

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5th Apr 11 at 18:04

if police smelt you and pulled you, for example

richc

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5th Apr 11 at 18:06

quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
You can use kerosine as thats cheap but illegal, but how the hell would your average copper know the difference.

A friend in the armed forces puts it in a his e90 320d.....

richc

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5th Apr 11 at 18:08

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
its not legal afaik, you have to pay duty if you are using it to fuel your car

You are allowed to burn £2000 worth before you pay tax. But how they prove how much you have burned is another story.

Steve

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5th Apr 11 at 18:12

so how come you arent charged petrol - duty for the first £2000 you buy at the pumps

Steve

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5th Apr 11 at 18:14

or burn £2000 worth of red diesel

sand-eel

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5th Apr 11 at 18:23

Its the first 2000L of veg you can use without paying ANY tax at all.

sand-eel

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5th Apr 11 at 18:23

in a year that is.

Grufman

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5th Apr 11 at 18:26

How much more often does it need serviced etc? Surely they have no way to tell if uve used the 2000l already so deems that law useless....

Crana

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5th Apr 11 at 18:28

Does the old engine oil thing for real? my dad owns a breakers yard, so he has a larage ammount of oil kicking about but its all mixed ect? anyone have anymore info on this

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