Paul_J
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Been said already... 205 gti.
Basically, things like a clio 172 will need to 'rev up' - where as 205 gti will instantly pull out of the corners with good low end torque.
ultimately I'm not sure if the aid of rwd would really be a benefit for it to warrent the mx5 and once again - it's a hill climb, you want something that can pull up the hill easily.
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gazza808
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don't waste money on good brakes they won't even be warm by the end,
mates 106 still runs povvy spec brakes, as do alot people in hill climbing.
think you'd be in a good place with a ph1 172,
finding a decent 205 for a decent price is getting rare.
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gez bay
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but you would drive the car to its power delivery then, keep the revs ect up
look at this 106 for example 9500rpm limit, won nearly every hillclimb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4LpqpQ0k9c
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Kippers
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Bloody hell grips bloody well for road tyres!
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Daniel_Corsa
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I've done hillclimbs / trials for quite a few years with Hamish. (One building the SWB Quattro)
What hill climbs are you looking at doing?
I would suggest a Pug 205, if its off road hillclimbs, jack the car up like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HmiCg8UbLU
That was on the same trial, although we were in a different class, we followed it around the Ilkley trial last year, think it cleared pretty much every stage. maybe not the type of hill climb your after.
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Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by gez bay
but you would drive the car to its power delivery then, keep the revs ect up
look at this 106 for example 9500rpm limit, won nearly every hillclimb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4LpqpQ0k9c
Sorry I didn't realise they had the time / budget to invest in something like that  e.g. Really close ratio dog box... hence stays in high revs constantly.
(P.S. did you know, that guy is 'LuckyB' from here - he used to have a v.quick corsa back in the day 
[Edited on 25-04-2011 by Paul_J]
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thomson
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106 s1 rally with a tu5jp engine. weighing 750kgs easy.
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gez bay
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its an awsome car
i just used it as an example
[Edited on 25-04-2011 by gez bay]
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ianofbhills
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What is wrong with instead of spending 2k on something just to enter hillclimbs keep the cash and enter the vx220 he already owns. £2k would go well towards paying entry fees and consumables etc. Without knowing a great deal about hill climb classifications i'd imagine the spec of that vx to be pretty competitive with the right driver.
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emicen
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quote:
Originally posted by ianofbhills
What is wrong with instead of spending 2k on something just to enter hillclimbs keep the cash and enter the vx220 he already owns. £2k would go well towards paying entry fees and consumables etc. Without knowing a great deal about hill climb classifications i'd imagine the spec of that vx to be pretty competitive with the right driver.
My knowledge of vx220s is scant but from what I've heard parts are rather expensive.
In his scenario, have an off and really the most damage he can do is another £1k base car to fix. Wouldn't take much panel damage to get to £1k on the vx.
Don't know if its his daily driver but I don't even like taking them on trackdays. The knowledge you need to drive it to work on Monday holds you back a lot.
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chris_uk
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if i entered the vx id be put in the same class as my mates supercharged atom.. hence no point what so ever.
i am planningnon just running at harewood hillclimb, its local and just a bit of fun really, but id like to be fairly competative. there are only 3 mx5's and about a million fwd hot hatches.. im not totally against the idea of a fwd but since im sharing the car we both have to agree.
if i crashed the vx it would be about 3k for each clam so its really not an option.
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Robin
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I wouldn't buy an mx5 for hillclimbing, bit slow.
I'd be inclined to buy a metro, a 1.8vvc lump and some decent tyres and brakes.
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gazza808
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
I wouldn't buy an mx5 for hillclimbing, bit slow.
I'd be inclined to buy a metro, a 1.8vvc lump and some decent tyres and brakes.
Then you'd be in the sports libre class with no chance of being slightly competitive with out a large budget.
[Edited on 26-04-2011 by gazza808]
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AshWatson
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
I wouldn't buy an mx5 for hillclimbing, bit slow.
I'd be inclined to buy a metro, a 1.8vvc lump and some decent tyres and brakes.
^this 
2 of my mates have just finished a project one of these they were planning on doing a ring trip in it for shits and giggles but due to other people backing out/cancelling the trip they havent gone,
theres is the older 1.8 on a dizzy setup though, but fook me its rapid and ideal for hill climb it just pins you in your seat out of every corner spinning wheels up but with some proper non budget tyres should be ace
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AshWatson
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infact due to no1 going to the ring anymore they maybe selling it and doing something bigger n better, want me to enquire a price chris ? local-ish to you aswell 
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3CorsaMeal
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AX GT
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chris_uk
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quote:
Originally posted by AshWatson
infact due to no1 going to the ring anymore they maybe selling it and doing something bigger n better, want me to enquire a price chris ? local-ish to you aswell
yes please
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chris_uk
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these are my options (cars are this years entries in first round)
Road Modified Saloon & Sports up to 1400cc
Smart Roadster
Smart Roadster
Mini Cooper S
Road Modified Saloon & Sport over 1400cc and up to 2000cc
Mazda MX5 1600
Mazda MX5 1600
Nissam Almera
MG MGF
MG BGT
Rover 200
Abarth 500 SS
Ford Focus Zetec
Honda Integra R
Honda Integra R
Peugeot 206 GTi
Peugeot 205 GTi
VW Polo G40
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Robin
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Is it a 1.4 times multiplier for forced induction?
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smcGSI16V
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Get your hands on the latest edition of Track Driver magazine. They have a very feature on hill climbing and sprints.
[Edited on 26-04-2011 by smcGSI16V]
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AK
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ITR DC2
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chris_uk
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for under a grand?
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LeeM
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saxo vts gets my vote, if you really put the effort in you can strip them to under 800kgs. use a vtr box with a 1.1 final drive and youve essentially got an s1 rallye box for £100-150
4-2-1 and straight through with a set of second hand cams(500 ish all in) and you'll be looking around the 145bhp mark
206 gti 266mm brakes will be around £100 and more than up to the job when youve got the weight down
ive got a mk2 vtr shell full of spares for sale for £500, ideal project 
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chris_uk
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car needs to have all the interior in it, otherwise its in the race class.
i cant see no reason why i cant strip out all the sound deadening etc then replace the carpets & seats tho.
the car is going to get some serious hammering, so i want something relativly reliable.
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LeeM
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when you say full interior do you mean so it looks like it did when it came out of the factory? or just seats and a carpet?
that could make weight saving diffeicult
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