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LeeM
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try and use something that fits an F28 because theres mounts linkages and shafts available for that box and it uses hydraulic clutch


Since when??

F28's are cable operated.

Can buy kits to make them hydraulic,but they are about 350quid.


o rly, hmm my c is hydraulic and i was told it was a faf using an F20 as id have to convert the car to cable or box to hydraulic so best stickin to the F28
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Maybe they meant F23.What engine was you going to be doing?ZLET??
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I would have gone to more than 80 anyway, never mind needing bits.

Please also note this needs to be bottom dollar so no expensive options and certainly not throttle bodies or anything silly.
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Thinking what I think you are? Track car in 6 weeks

Scousers, honestly!
Warren G
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what you after ian

coz ive been looking into a few different things you might be interested in

whats the budget and what power do you want?
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If you had of though if this a month ago...

My Vectra made £80 down liverpool auctions! Had new belts, water pump, starter and head gasket few thousand ago!


you sold it for that?

Would have got over double that weighing it in


No thats what the dealer got at auction... He gave me £400

[Edited on 21-06-2011 by Twiggy]
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What you got in mind as in price/power?

theres serveral options,

ive been looking into fitting a corsa vxr engine into one - i reckon i could wire it up etc, but thats more costly.. but few mods + mapped will see 240bhp

or even a newer z18xer 140bhp, but there abit more canbus - would need more research to weather i could get it to run correctly

otherwise z18xe coversion - maybe a bolt on turbo or charger like will's. Turbo wise i can tell you exactly what you need

then you could go cheaper, but unkown - z22se

uses a f23 gearbox so just use same bits the z20let boys use on there conversion. wiring would be quite simple, few hours with tis could write you a diagram

v6... custom mounts etc prob not ideal

or maybe a z20net (fitted to the vectra) is basicaly a z22se (alloy block and head) but 2.0 and turbo not to be confused with a z20let totaly differnent. OR you could fit a z22se and bolt on the z20net turbo set up...

could even import a supercharger kit that they use in the chevrolet standard 2.4 i believe which bolts onto the 2.2se



[Edited on 21-06-2011 by Warren G]
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try and use something that fits an F28 because theres mounts linkages and shafts available for that box and it uses hydraulic clutch


Since when??

F28's are cable operated.

Can buy kits to make them hydraulic,but they are about 350quid.


o rly, hmm my c is hydraulic and i was told it was a faf using an F20 as id have to convert the car to cable or box to hydraulic so best stickin to the F28



F28 is definitely Cable Operated - 6 Speed 'Box sourced from C20LET Cavalier & Calibras, which never had Hydraulic clutches...
LeeM
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F23 is definitely what i meant. sorry
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Wack an old v6 in.
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http://c20xe.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=588653
Warren G
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for a corsa b james

cant keep putting old dog engines into new vauxhalls
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Not bothered how old the engine is, budget is approximately two shoe strings and one carrot.
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This the project for combe?
Warren G
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-Astra-SRI-2-2-Great-condition-needs-repair-/260805514700?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cb93855cc#ht_500wt_1156

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-ASTRA-2-2-SRI-2001-Y-18-INCH-ALLOYS-NICE-CAR-/160603404238?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2564b577ce#ht_768wt_1135

fix it, strip the car

ive decieded it needs a 2.2 conversion. easy as pie.

il even write a wiring diagram up to convert it
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I'm up for Z22SE if it can be done cheap enough.

Concerned about shafts/hubs etc. though, no money for that unless you know of any bodges.
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This the project for combe?
Yes mate

[Edited on 21-06-2011 by Ian]
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-Astra-SRI-2-2-Great-condition-needs-repair-/260805514700?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cb93855cc#ht_500wt_1156

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-ASTRA-2-2-SRI-2001-Y-18-INCH-ALLOYS-NICE-CAR-/160603404238?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2564b577ce#ht_768wt_1135

fix it, strip the car

ive decieded it needs a 2.2 conversion. easy as pie.

il even write a wiring diagram up to convert it



the 2nd link says in it that the engine is making a noise, id be veryyy confident to say it would just
be the timing chain + tensioner, seem to be quite common on the 2.2, sort that and stick it in the C
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X12XE, I'll let you have it cheap
Warren G
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I'm up for Z22SE if it can be done cheap enough.

Concerned about shafts/hubs etc. though, no money for that unless you know of any bodges.


conversion parts you can get from vx as they fitted a f23 into the 1.7 combo.... but you need to make up a 10mm spacer, thats the gearbox mounts done. if you fit the front one yourself or not bother, drivers side you can use the astra mount (bolts straight on) and again a block of steel spacer

i beleive you can use the astra shafts and just get hubs machined (i can get exact info if required)

swap the immbo ring and transponder chips over, then sort the wiring loom over and it will run.



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definitely needs a 2.2.
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So:

Z22SE
F23
Combo shafts and hubs? (5 nut?)
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id want rid of that steering rack setup if its anything like my missus its god awful, i couldnt imagine tracking it, is it that electronic rack?
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EPS I think, might even just be manual seemed fairly light moving it around the road.

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