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Ian
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19th Jul 11 at 23:11   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Here's some advice, don't buy a Standard Life Global Index Linked Bond
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob B
quote:
Originally posted by BluKoo

I gave just under £100k to Avalon Investment.

Currently got "Stocks & Shares ISA, Freedom ISA" (whatever that actually means).

It doesn't appear to be making huge gains, but I guess things have been a little unstable for a while...

£ Corporate Bond
M&G Strategic Corporate Bond A +0.20%

£ Strategic Bond
Invesco Perpetual Monthly Income Pluss (Acc) +0.56%

Absolute Return
Standard Life Global Abs Ret Strategy R Acc +2.27%

Asia Pacific ex Japan
First State Asia Pacific A (Acc) +37.80%

European Smaller Companies
Threadneedle European smaller Companies 1 (Acc) +92.26%

Global Bonds
Standard Life Global Index Linked Bond R Acc -1.29%




figures at the end i.e +92% meaning a 92% return on your investment?

This seems the way to go for sure! I know you won't always see that but they seem to know what they're doing!


Yeah, I think thats what it means. ALthough I've never had it all explained to me properly.
Typically though the +37.8% was only on an initial investment of £2284.88 and the +92.26 was on a £1,156 investment.

The +0.20% and +0.50% hikes were on £8k+ investments. Typical...

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Here's some advice, don't buy a Standard Life Global Index Linked Bond


Indeed. That was just under £8k in that one too.

[Edited on 19-07-2011 by BluKoo]
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19th Jul 11 at 23:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

interesting, it seems best looking at that to let the experts do the work. Did you request low risk investments?

There's a few financial advisers near me who offer free first consultations, although none really specify investments more pensions, retirement planning etc.

Although maybe i could hit two birds with one stone as i need to see one about a business setup too.
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They sent me a questionnaire to determine how much of a risk taker I was and they would base the investments on that.

The score was between 1 and 100.
100 being a high risk taker.
I scored 50, so i'm slap bang in the middle.
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I would guess low risk in 12 months you will only be talking about 5-6%.

Surely you can do more with it than that?

Safe ISA is just so.... safe?
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Yeah, i bet the big returns you made bluKoo were the high risk ones which is why the put a small amount in there.

I'd be happy to take a punt with 10k of it on something high risk i reckon but would like justification on why they believe there is a possible big return.
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I just worked out that on those valuations I listed alone I made £2000.33 in 4 months.

[Edited on 19-07-2011 by BluKoo]
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How do Avalon take their cut of things and was there a specified period you had to invest for before the money can be withdrawn?
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They take a cut based on the total value of the portfolio at the end of the 4 month period (they seem to issue statements every 4 months).

Unless i'm missing something, it would appear that they've only charged £96.24 for the last 4 months on a portfolio worth £105,742.

I have a funny feeling I might be reading that wrong though as that seems quite low.

[Edited on 19-07-2011 by BluKoo]
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I think you should maybe research what's happening to your money mate

[Edited on 20-07-2011 by Hammer]
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I thought you said in a different thread you had £250k invested BluKoo?
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quote:
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I thought you said in a different thread you had £250k invested BluKoo?


Blukoo is a billionairess

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/8478004/Billionairess-gave-6m-to-conman-gigolo-out-of-love.html
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I'd put a chunk of it into Apple shares.
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quote:
Originally posted by BluKoo
I gave just under £100k to Avalon Investment.



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quote:
Originally posted by BluKoo

I gave just under £100k to Avalon Investment.

Currently got "Stocks & Shares ISA, Freedom ISA" (whatever that actually means).




£100k in an ISA, you know that's not possible unless it was done over 10+ years?
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Right now is just a risky time full stop.

Banks are offering v.low interest - I think the combination I'm getting is only around 3.25%

Then the global economy is all over the place and balancing on the edge of another recession.

- Eurozone is struggling (Italy, Greece, Ireland, Spain etc)
- The US hit it's debt ceiling in May and if it doesn't raise it, will default in August.
- UK Property prices have barely risen (and some places dropped) since the recession
- A .com bubble is growing in Silicon Valley in the US and has been sucking up investment, but could pop at any point

Ultimately it's risky ground and if you do nothing and the pound ever decides to completely die, we'll be left with currency inflation so high that our money will be worthless.

This is why the price of gold has risen a lot recently, the uncertainty in the global markets has forced people to move their money into a global asset like gold - that said the price has seriously rallied due to this and is at a record high per ounce as a result.

Honestly, this was the best hedge / investment I've read about for a while:
http://consumerist.com/2011/01/you-can-now-open-a-chinese-bank-account-and-invest-directly-in-yuan.html

- Essentially invest up to $20,000 into Chinese currency as a hedge against your western stocks. The chinese currency doesn't float like the USD or GBP, it's fixed by their government and is set lower than it should be (to increase trading) - when they eventually re value their currency, then it will go up immediately by a fair way - but also covers against western economies dropping further and the Chinese economy continuing to rise.
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Dunno about anyone else, but I would not be telling people how much money I have invested and where.
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
Right now is just a risky time full stop.

Banks are offering v.low interest - I think the combination I'm getting is only around 3.25%

Then the global economy is all over the place and balancing on the edge of another recession.

- Eurozone is struggling (Italy, Greece, Ireland, Spain etc)
- The US hit it's debt ceiling in May and if it doesn't raise it, will default in August.
- UK Property prices have barely risen (and some places dropped) since the recession
- A .com bubble is growing in Silicon Valley in the US and has been sucking up investment, but could pop at any point

Ultimately it's risky ground and if you do nothing and the pound ever decides to completely die, we'll be left with currency inflation so high that our money will be worthless.

This is why the price of gold has risen a lot recently, the uncertainty in the global markets has forced people to move their money into a global asset like gold - that said the price has seriously rallied due to this and is at a record high per ounce as a result.

Honestly, this was the best hedge / investment I've read about for a while:
http://consumerist.com/2011/01/you-can-now-open-a-chinese-bank-account-and-invest-directly-in-yuan.html

- Essentially invest up to $20,000 into Chinese currency as a hedge against your western stocks. The chinese currency doesn't float like the USD or GBP, it's fixed by their government and is set lower than it should be (to increase trading) - when they eventually re value their currency, then it will go up immediately by a fair way - but also covers against western economies dropping further and the Chinese economy continuing to rise.


Thanks Warren Buffet

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drugs or property
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Originally posted by Ian
On part worns?

Container of 500 tyres is £800. They go out for £10 - £20 ea.

Do the maths on that. Guy who has the one by my workshop has a 60 plate M3 convert.


And everyone i have been to is cash only
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Id put it all on red.
Fro
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Gamble it.
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love you Jamie
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buy shares in apple before iPhone 5 and iPad 3 launch..
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or buy gold...

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