RichR
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How to wash your car without scratching the paint
Why do it for yourself when 10 Eastern Europeans will do it for the price of a macdonalds?!? - No Scratches on mine
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thegsi
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PS: Fuck off.
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Ben J
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quote: Originally posted by LiVe LeE
How to wash your car without scratching the paint
Why do it for yourself when 10 Eastern Europeans will do it for the price of a macdonalds?!? - No Scratches on mine
Tbf it will be swirled.
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Ben J
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http://www.youtube.com/user/g4rdenspoon
OMG.
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antnee
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Post this on Detailing world! They will back up what Blukoo has said.
From my own experience using a wash mitt and drying towel is quicker and you get better results!
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quote: Originally posted by gardenspoon
quote: Originally posted by VrsTurbo
Wow your videos are shit.
I guess you have no friends and hope that "youtube fame" hits you and you get put on tv!
RETARD
Wow, that's constructive.
I bet you repair computers in your spare time too.
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RichR
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quote: Originally posted by Ben J
quote: Originally posted by LiVe LeE
How to wash your car without scratching the paint
Why do it for yourself when 10 Eastern Europeans will do it for the price of a macdonalds?!? - No Scratches on mine
Tbf it will be swirled.
tbf, I don't really care - its a 7 year old car with 135,000 miles on the clock
I can't see any swirls either, especially after a day or two of driving and it getting shit up again
[Edited on 27-07-2011 by LiVe LeE]
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gardenspoon
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quote: Originally posted by antnee
Post this on Detailing world! They will back up what Blukoo has said.
From my own experience using a wash mitt and drying towel is quicker and you get better results!
Yes you may be right.
I'm not trying to suggest that there isn't a better way than the way I do it, but for results that don't ruin the paint without spending loads of cash it really does work.
I understand that many members here will be fastidious about their motor, but nearly every car you see is full of swirls and scratches, and I'm talking about new cars - not old scrappers.
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BluKoo
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quote: Originally posted by gardenspoon
There's nothing wrong with a sponge or a leather, what's important is that they are clean. Neither can scratch the paint without dirt.
My car doesn't have any micro-scratches and neither did my previous motor after three years of ownership.
My brother is quite possibly one of the best detailers in the country and he doesn't use sponges or a chamois and I think you'll struggle to find a single detailer or valater (who knows what they are doing) who does.
You have to be 100% sure you have 100% of the dirt off a car before you can say it won't scratch the paint, but since 99% of people (like yourself) wash the car outside where there is dirt, dust and wind then you can never be sure of that.
A sponge has a very flat surface area, and if any dirt gets trapped between it and the paintwork as you are washing it, you will scratch it.
A quality lambswool wash mitt is different because it has an ultra deep pile which enables particles of dirt to be drawn safely away from surfaces that are being washed. Moreover, because this pile is fairly loose, the same particles of dirt can be easily rinsed out after each panel is washed.
quote: Originally posted by gardenspoon
quote: Originally posted by antnee
Post this on Detailing world! They will back up what Blukoo has said.
From my own experience using a wash mitt and drying towel is quicker and you get better results!
Yes you may be right.
I'm not trying to suggest that there isn't a better way than the way I do it, but for results that don't ruin the paint without spending loads of cash it really does work.
If you're going to make a video about how to wash your car without scratching the paint, then you should make sure you show the best method possible. Otherwise your just giving out bad advice.
A lambswool mitt and a drying towel don't cost loads either.
£11 for a mitt: http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/easirider-lambswool-wash-mitt-cat3.html
£11 for a drying towel: http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/pb-luxury-drying-towel-cat5.html#aMasterPBDT0000
[Edited on 27-07-2011 by BluKoo]
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Corsa_Sport21
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I too use a sponge and then a chamois to dry it when i can be arsed.
Can't say ive noticed it scratching that paint anymore after several washes.
Maybe im just doing it properly.
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BluKoo
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quote: Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
I too use a sponge and then a chamois to dry it when i can be arsed.
Can't say ive noticed it scratching that paint anymore after several washes.
Maybe im just doing it properly.
"Doing it properly" isn't going to prevent scratches. Its not the method that's poor, its the products.
Its scientifically proven that a mitt and drying towel are superior to a sponge and chamois.
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Haimsey
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Anyone ever used slug pellets on their car?
Marcy Marc
White Sport Progress Thread
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BarnshaW
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i definately get less swirl marks with a mitt, sponges are horrendous
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taylorboosh
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Your brother is a scientist?
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Corsa_Sport21
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quote: Originally posted by BluKoo
quote: Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
I too use a sponge and then a chamois to dry it when i can be arsed.
Can't say ive noticed it scratching that paint anymore after several washes.
Maybe im just doing it properly.
"Doing it properly" isn't going to prevent scratches. Its not the method that's poor, its the products.
Its scientifically proven that a mitt and drying towel are superior to a sponge and chamois.
Its physically proven that a poor workman always blames his tools.
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BluKoo
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quote: Originally posted by john-d
Your brother is a scientist?
No, but Rich (the other owner of PB) is/was.
quote: Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Its physically proven that a poor workman always blames his tools.
Who's the poor workman?
[Edited on 27-07-2011 by BluKoo]
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Corsa_Sport21
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quote: Originally posted by BluKoo
quote: Originally posted by john-d
Your brother is a scientist?
No, but Rich (the other owner of PB) is/was.
quote: Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Its physically proven that a poor workman always blames his tools.
Who's the poor workman?
[Edited on 27-07-2011 by BluKoo]
The person who blames his tools for a bad job.
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BluKoo
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quote: Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
The person who blames his tools for a bad job.
And who's doing that?
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Corsa_Sport21
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quote: Originally posted by BluKoo
quote: Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
The person who blames his tools for a bad job.
And who's doing that?
No 1 specific.
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BluKoo
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Great input then...
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Corsa_Sport21
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Its fantastic input when i don't seem to have the problem of scratching my car when i wash it with a bucket and sponge.
I have tried a lambswool mitt in the past, but i felt it was putting too much water on and wasting alot of it.And it wasn't as soapy.
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BluKoo
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The more water used the better. It acts as a lubricant and helps the dirt slide off.
Just to be clear, we're not talking about big, deep scratches. We're talking about finer scratches.
I guarantee you will have them, but maybe to the untrained eye you don't notice them.
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gardenspoon
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quote: Originally posted by BluKoo
My brother is quite possibly one of the best detailers in the country and he doesn't use sponges or a chamois and I think you'll struggle to find a single detailer or valater (who knows what they are doing) who does.
You have to be 100% sure you have 100% of the dirt off a car before you can say it won't scratch the paint, but since 99% of people (like yourself) wash the car outside where there is dirt, dust and wind then you can never be sure of that.
A sponge has a very flat surface area, and if any dirt gets trapped between it and the paintwork as you are washing it, you will scratch it.
A quality lambswool wash mitt is different because it has an ultra deep pile which enables particles of dirt to be drawn safely away from surfaces that are being washed. Moreover, because this pile is fairly loose, the same particles of dirt can be easily rinsed out after each panel is washed.
[Edited on 27-07-2011 by BluKoo]
Thank you, I do appreciate thoughtful and intelligent feedback.
I will have to stand by my point though, probably 99% of car owners go about things very badly and could learn something from this video. Unless you've got something a bit special then most won't clean the car as well as I do. One of the great things about owning a Ford is that the dealers don't wash it after a service. I will get a lambs wool mitt soon. Thanks.
Although, thinking about it, it's all a bit pointless anyway - my Mondeo is going to be worth practically nothing in two years whatever the condition, and the next owner will probably put it through car wash an ruin it anyway.
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sc0ott
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I do 80 miles a day. 70 of which are motorway and 10 backroads. I think this does more damage to my cars paintwork than using the queens fanny pad to wash it.
The day i start detailing my car would be when i have one which gets used on sunny weekends.
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Hodgy
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PMSLLLLL at this thread
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