Ben J
Member
Registered: 31st Jan 05
Location: Cheshire
User status: Offline
|
Is it fun though?
|
Ben J
Member
Registered: 31st Jan 05
Location: Cheshire
User status: Offline
|
quote: Originally posted by Steve
y dont u stfu
soz hard.
|
Ben J
Member
Registered: 31st Jan 05
Location: Cheshire
User status: Offline
|
Have you got aftermarket springs on it?
|
Stuart H
Member
Registered: 17th Jul 09
Location: lanark , scotland
User status: Offline
|
French car in the wet pushed a bit too hard
|
Steve
Premium Member
Registered: 30th Mar 02
Location: Worcestershire Drives: Defender
User status: Offline
|
quote: Originally posted by Ben J
quote: Originally posted by Steve
y dont u stfu
soz hard.
apology accepted
|
Ojc
Member
Registered: 14th Nov 00
Location: Reading: Drives : Clio 197
User status: Offline
|
quote: Originally posted by Ben J
Have you got aftermarket springs on it?
Yes but they are basically Cup springs.
Seen here from Evo
"Luckily, the Renault has a chassis to match its engine. Thanks to its wheel-at-each-corner design, there is virtually no body roll, and the taut set-up means it deals with changes of direction easily. It can catch you out, though, especially in the wet, and the Clio isn’t as forgiving as the VXR or MINI."
|
Corsa_Sport21
Member
Registered: 13th Apr 08
Location: Leven, Fife. Drives : 205 GTi
User status: Offline
|
So is it under-steery or over-steery??
|
sc0ott
Member
Registered: 16th Feb 09
User status: Offline
|
Whats it like in the snow? Good grip?
|
Ben J
Member
Registered: 31st Jan 05
Location: Cheshire
User status: Offline
|
quote: Originally posted by Ojc
quote: Originally posted by Ben J
Have you got aftermarket springs on it?
Yes but they are basically Cup springs.
Seen here from Evo
"Luckily, the Renault has a chassis to match its engine. Thanks to its wheel-at-each-corner design, there is virtually no body roll, and the taut set-up means it deals with changes of direction easily. It can catch you out, though, especially in the wet, and the Clio isn’t as forgiving as the VXR or MINI."
Its obv set up hard for handling in dry which means its fiesty in wet. You'll get used to it. Probs not an ideal family car tho.....but we've said this before!
|
MatthewR
Member
Registered: 21st Oct 02
Location: Rickmansworth
User status: Offline
|
Ive had a saxo vts and corsa vxr, in the wet corsa was much better but that was probably because id slow down more approaching bends/roundabouts than i would in the saxo, just had to concentrate abit more in the saxo lol
|
Kyle T
Premium Member
Registered: 11th Sep 04
Location: Selby, North Yorkshire
User status: Offline
|
quote: Originally posted by Ojc
Thanks to its wheel-at-each-corner design,
As opposed to what?
Lotus Elise 111R
Impreza WRX STi
|
Ben G
Member
Registered: 12th Jan 07
Location: Essex
User status: Offline
|
as opposed to massive over hangs.
|
chrisritch
Member
Registered: 2nd Sep 08
Location: Northants Drives: V40
User status: Offline
|
quote: Originally posted by Kyle T
quote: Originally posted by Ojc
Thanks to its wheel-at-each-corner design,
As opposed to what?
I asked this and everyone responded like it was a stupid question
|
big eck
Member
Registered: 20th Apr 03
Location: Tullibody. Drives - Audi B8 S4 & Fiesta Zetec-S
User status: Offline
|
I never hab a problem with both mine and the wife's gti's in the wet. The saxo vts we had was shocking tho.
|
Matt L
Member
Registered: 17th Apr 06
User status: Offline
|
quote: Originally posted by Kyle T
quote: Originally posted by Ojc
Thanks to its wheel-at-each-corner design,
As opposed to what?
that made me too.
|
3CorsaMeal
Member
Registered: 11th Apr 02
User status: Offline
|
suspension too hard imo, need more flex in it innit!
|
Ben J
Member
Registered: 31st Jan 05
Location: Cheshire
User status: Offline
|
quote: Originally posted by Matt L
quote: Originally posted by Kyle T
quote: Originally posted by Ojc
Thanks to its wheel-at-each-corner design,
As opposed to what?
that made me too.
As opposed to loads of body overhang etc. So basically the wheel is right in the corner of the car. Makes for better handling.
I use this term.
|
Nick-S
Member
Registered: 3rd Mar 04
Location: Leigh. Drives: RS Megane 230 F1 Team R26
User status: Offline
|
My french hot hatch is fine in the wet. Even puts its power down quite well tbh.
|
Jambo
Member
Registered: 8th Sep 01
Location: Maidenhead, Drives: VXR Arctic
User status: Offline
|
Mine was fine also.
You need better tyres.
|
Ojc
Member
Registered: 14th Nov 00
Location: Reading: Drives : Clio 197
User status: Offline
|
No 172 I had was ok as well.
197 got massive track
|
FlamingCorsa
Member
Registered: 22nd Apr 03
Location: Shropshire
User status: Offline
|
ii find mine good in wet, currently got hancook v12 and they seem good! back flicks out sometimes but it quite predictable so drive accordingly.
think the grip is good, done couple of track days in wet with it!
at brans hatch it was really wet when we got there and running with yoko a048, brother found it hard and span once
but then i didnt get overtaken in the morning session, were few clio 197/200 there and all doing well in damp , one guy chucked slicks on when track was still damp(no dry line) and had loads of grip with it still, i was shocked!
|
Anty
Premium Member
Registered: 19th Mar 08
Location: droitwich
User status: Offline
|
quote: Originally posted by Ojc
Is it some sort of joke? Handling is horrendous.
You get this nonsense about Clios being the one to beat in tests, maybe they should re run these tests in the wet.
Bring notice to top Gear , when there next show is on..
|
Corsa_Sport21
Member
Registered: 13th Apr 08
Location: Leven, Fife. Drives : 205 GTi
User status: Offline
|
quote: Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
So is it under-steery or over-steery??
|
Dr Pepper
Member
Registered: 21st Sep 02
Location: oxford Drives Renault Clio RS200
User status: Offline
|
Have to say that I wouldnt buy any other tyres for mine other than the continental s contact things it comes with from the factory...they are expensive .... and in the dry cheaper tyres can be just as good. In the wet however I could not believe the difference when I changed to goodyear ...to the point where I took it into renault to check if everything was ok as I nearly lost it a few times coming into winter. Also my Traction control was suddenly butting in noticebly and killing power like it used to do in the cooper s whoich has never happened before in the clio. I found on the goodyears you couldnt even put the power down under moderate acceleration without it sopinning the wheels up.... I have never had that happen with the continentals
It wasnt that it was over or under stearing dramatically - Its more like it just aquaplanes really easy.
My advice is to stick to the continentals, or take it easy -
I know nothing about how to improve grip in the wet, or the reason the clio can be a handfull- but I find that the car handles so flat and balanced that it sometimes doesnt seem to be conected in the wet, it almost feels like a bit of body roll would help put weight on the tyres and make it grip more - that could be absolute garbage but thats how it feels to me, I cant really describe it any other way. Essentially it feels like there is no give in the car and it just skates over the surface if you push too hard on certain tyres
Anyhow - its much better with the continentals....and I do mean MUCH better. As I say - I would not go through the winter on anything else. I hadnt really noticed any problems in the wet in 5 years of having a clio until I changed the tyres for cheaper ones in september last year
[Edited on 03-01-2012 by Dr Pepper]
|
adiohead
Member
Registered: 28th Sep 01
User status: Offline
|
Goodyear F1s are shite in the winter
|