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That Ferrari is hideous.
This. Jesus christ, ugly as sin, I'd ban that from competing.
 and on that note http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97292
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Daveskater
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These stepped noses really do look horrible, but I expect we'll be used to them by the end of the year. I hope so, anyway
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What about the Force India? Looks like someone has either puked and or thrown a bucket of paint over it!
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JonnyJ
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Interesting name change corsadee
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Interesting name change corsadee
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Some fucking ugly nose cones this year!
Looking forward to seeing redbulls car tbh,
hope they havn't gone for this bloody stepped front!
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I'm hoping they have gone similar to McLaren so that when they're showing the front-runner action it will be a break from the horrible stepped fronts
I noticed earlier that the Ferrari hasn't got any TV cameras on the front  So presumably the front will change a bit before the race.
I think another reason that these stepped nose designs don't look so good is that they don't taper along the sides at all (like McLaren) so the sides being flat up to the sidepods doesn't look that great.
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Oh yeah, Lotus launched their car about 15 mins ago. F1Fanatic won't load though, presumably too many people trying to get on and look at pics is my guess
Video of the Lotus launch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjgSaYQ_GeY They've gone with the stepped nose as well, but pull it off better than Ferrari imo.
[Edited on 05-02-2012 by Daveskater]
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I like you Dave, you are a man of men
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Dave's maybe capable of a drive-by cuddle
Look at my pictures
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Didn't realise what everyone was complaining about (car wise) until I starred at the picture for a while.
Jesus, looks rancid, wonder how it'll perform though
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It looks like a lot of teams will go with the 'bump' to save having to redesign and homologate a complete new tub to fit in with the new nose height rule. McLaren's tubs are a lot lower compared to other teams hence them able to 'curve' the nose. Although as said, the 'bump' doesn't affect aero; still trying to work that one out
Although Ferrari's noise is pretty squared compared to other launched cars -
However RBR's launch tomorrow, been interesting to see what they've done with the nose although iirc RB7's tub was a fair amount taller than McLaren's so i'm going with some sort of bump/lip.
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Rb8 was revealed at 1pm is got a different take on the stepped nose only a video of it on www.redbullracing.com new sauber looks good though
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Dom
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Yet to find any released images, but here's a rendered RB8 - http://i.imgur.com/VuTz7.jpg
Edit - Sauber -
HRT, most likely development car for testing at Jerez -
[Edited on 06-02-2012 by Dom]
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RBR website and BBC Sport website don't seem to be working since the RB car launched an hour ago
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Dom
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Both appear to be work now, although RBR have yet to release any decent press photos though.
Leaked Torro nose -
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http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12433/7491908/Champions-Red-Bull-follow-nose-trend-with-RB8
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Anyone else a bit worried that Mclaren have got it wrong by not going with the stepped nose seeing as everyone else has?
I know they had quite a low nose anyway but still...
[Edited on 06-02-2012 by JonnyJ]
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Dom
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Nope, it would have been a major set back if they raised their nose. As said, McLaren have a lower tub that most teams and they would have had to redesign the whole tub/chassis and loose a fair few years worth of development if they went with the 'bump' nose.
Clearly teams found the effects of having a 'bump' nose outweighs them having to redo tub/chassis and get the whole lot homologated again.
[Edited on 06-02-2012 by Dom]
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That's one way of looking at it, but I guess it could go either way and they could have an advantage based on their low bulkhead last season.
If the bump-nose had anything to offer, surely teams would have tried it last year as the regulations would have allowed having a McLaren low nose and an "everyone else" high bulkhead.
The bumpnose is a compromise, nobody wanted to alter their chassis enough and McLaren already had a chassis which would work - so it could be advantage McLaren.
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Dom
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We'll, kind-of-ish, find out what effect this has tomorrow at testing.
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I reckon the Mclaren will be really quick this year.
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Oeh another twist!
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news/return-of-the-f-duct/
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That's a very clever idea tbh
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Dom
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Oeh another twist!
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news/return-of-the-f-duct/
Mercedes apparently were working on something similar last year - http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2011/10/21/mercedes-f-duct-front-wing
IIRC Mercedes were also working on a steering column activated 'F-duct' where a sleeve moved over a 'hole - turning the steering wheel would cover the 'hole' and in turn activate the 'f-duct', with the steering wheel straight the hole would be uncovered and air would flow out of the column.
I'm sure Scarb did an article on this (can't find it though) and it was pretty impressive, although it was a bit of a grey area on whether the driver operated it or not.
[Edited on 06-02-2012 by Dom]
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Yeah I read about the Merc system towards the end of the season, the little hole on the nose of the Merc kept opening and closing through the seasons (some races it was blanked off, some practise sessions it was open, etc) and it raised a few eyebrows back then.
It clearly didn't do much good though
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Interesting, I wonder if this F-duct type system will be implemented by other teams later on in the season. When McLaren first used the F-duct, the rest of the field could not implement it as efficiently due to regulations regarding structural change to the chassis.
I think McLaren wont be hindered by this whole stepped nose thing at all. They have a history of running cars with low noses which have won world championships.
1998
1999
Roll on tomorrow although it will be a couple of days before we see anything sustainable in relation to pace
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