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andys sxi
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29th Mar 12 at 17:47   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ive got makita impact drill and combi drill both li-ion batterys and i think there better than that old makita nicad impact drill i had, the batteries started to go but thats me using it all the time in work

just go in to screwfix or toolstation and see what they have got for your money, that makita 1 is a heavey drill where as the bosch 1 will be lighter


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29th Mar 12 at 18:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Li-ion is better than ni-cad. Just look what all the best tools are powered by. They last longer and are much lighter.
If you work on building sites you will soon see that 90 percent of tradesmen are using either makita or hilti.
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Li-ion is light years ahead of ni-cad. You can charge li-ion at any time, it doesn't discharge in the box like ni-cad and the batteries last much longer (ie you get more charges out of a battery, not the drill runs longer). Very few new models use ni-cad/ni-mh batteries.

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Ok so 20 odd replies later, li-ion is the way to go, I get it
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For £100 the one Adio posted is a very good drill.
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I do like the look of the Bosch, wish there was a screwfix round here

edit - Oh wait there is I'll go have a look at the weekend in the flesh

[Edited on 29-03-2012 by AndyKent]
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http://www.screwfix.com/p/makita-bhp453rftk-18v-li-ion-combi-drill/20547


If you can push your budget a bit, that is an excellent drill for the price.

[Edited on 29-03-2012 by harrisp]
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Ni-cad Makita IMO, li-ion batteries are better but replacements cost a fortune! for what you want the makita with 2 Ni-cad batteries would be spot on.

[Edited on 29-03-2012 by Nismo]
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Except for leaving them unused kill nicad batteries.
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quote:
Originally posted by harrisp
Except for leaving them unused kill nicad batteries.


Left my old makits for a couple of years and its fine, just dug it out the other day
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You are the only person ever to do that Gary.

Its not drill batteries specifically, it's nicad being an ancient technology that's just not as good as li-ion.
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My makita ni-cad has been fine for 2 years, if it was just ancient technology people still wouldn't make it, ni-cad is fit for a purpose in the market.
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They do make them, cheaper than the li-ion drills because they want rid of them.

People say I would argue black was white as well, the li-ion ones are better, there's not even any argument to be had about it
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I know they are better, I'm not saying there not but for what the average DIY or home user wants ni-cad is perfectly acceptable.

Its not that they want rid of them Makita still produce them as they sell well and do the job they are designed to do.

IMO for £100 there is no better drill.
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Apart from the bosch li-ion that was posted.
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i bought a bosch 18v combi li-ion and that came with 2 batteries too.

was from b&q a few weeks ago and cost 95 quid i think


EDIT --> even better value now at 80 quid bosch 18v combi li-ion

just notice it was posted on first page too

[Edited on 30-03-2012 by Demo]

[Edited on 30-03-2012 by Demo]
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quote:
Originally posted by John
Apart from the bosch li-ion that was posted.


A battery does not make a drill any better

Bosch green stuff is terrible, Bosch blue is far better, and if you specifically want a Bosch, then get this blue.

http://www.screwfix.com/p/bosch-gsb-18-2-li-18v-li-ion-cordless-combi-drill/76997
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The one that was posted on the last page before all of this rubbish?
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I thought you were referring to the Bosch green that was posted
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But myself id still take the makita over the bosch, based on past experiance.

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quote:
Originally posted by Nismo
I thought you were referring to the Bosch green that was posted


what's wrong with that for £80 and for normal DIY use. For putting up a few shelves and pictures and lets face it being used as a driver more often than a drill, why would you need to spend 25% more. It'll last, it'll be more than capable, it has Lithium batteries; its not like it'll be used day in, day out as if it was a trade tool
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I posted a fucking Bosch blue one that is fucking amazing and recommended to me by a fucking professional.


for fucks sake
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quote:
Originally posted by LiVe LeE
quote:
Originally posted by Nismo
I thought you were referring to the Bosch green that was posted


what's wrong with that for £80 and for normal DIY use. For putting up a few shelves and pictures and lets face it being used as a driver more often than a drill, why would you need to spend 25% more. It'll last, it'll be more than capable, it has Lithium batteries; its not like it'll be used day in, day out as if it was a trade tool


The mech and clutches in them are forever going, heck buy what you want it doesn't bother me either way, just past experience with bosch green has made me think twice about there green range.

you will have a years warranty with it anyway so it won't matter, just get it exchanged after 11 months every year
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that was a genuine question by the way; in a normal DIY setting, they're unlikely to see the loadings
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You say that but as time goes by you might find yourself wanting it for other things / projects.

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