JonnyJ
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Awww, i was hoping for more than that. Corsadee was better.
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Russ
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quote: Originally posted by p
quote: Originally posted by Jamie Walby
quote: Originally posted by p
quote: Originally posted by Jamie Walby
However you take into consideration it only took chelsea 3 seasons and City likely to be 4, plus player price inflations etc....
Then I would say Chelsea spent more.
Cast, wait.
3 Seasons? What?
2 seasons my bad. That makes it even worse for Chelsea.
How so? First season = nothing. Second season = Carling Cup/Premier League titles.
That is 2 seasons yes..
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JonnyJ
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quote: Originally posted by Steve
I think this spending big to get success is a fairly short term solution to winning things, it happened to chelsea and i can see it happening to city, maybe have 2-3 seasons of winning things, then owners get bored, sack managers, make strange decisions, etc look at the teams that have had continued long term success, united, and barcelona probably two of the biggest and most famous, yes they obviously have spent big money on some players throughout, but they have also had an ethos of bringing up talent through there youth systems, and a lot of there biggest players were established that way. It also installs a mindset throughout the club of building for the future and is key imo, to success long term
All depends on the owners and foundations they put in place, i agree in principle though.
Of course with United the big key is Fergie. When he retires it will be interesting to see the owners take on things if the success doesnt continue. We know you have massive debts and need to be winning things to keep paying them. If a new manager came in and it started shaky, will United become another panic sacking club?
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mwg
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Sacking managers and spending ridiculous amounts of money seems to have worked pretty well for Real Madrid
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mwg
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Only just got round to reading the article and seen that they only generated £365.3m of the £930.4m spent. Holy shit
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Jamie Walby
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quote: Originally posted by p
quote: Originally posted by JonnyJ
I think this Chelsea fan is jealous that all those who defected from Man Utd to Chelsea when they started spending are no defecting to Man City.
Chelsea could be bollocksed if the dont win the CL this year. Can see Roman throwing in the towel soon.
Not fussed one little bit. Although I find the latte of your comment funny, given I imagine many on here thought he'd leave after 3/4 years, and next year he's owned the club for 10.
Not quite 9, actually.
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Jamie Walby
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quote: Originally posted by mwg
Sacking managers and spending ridiculous amounts of money seems to have worked pretty well for Real Madrid
Eventually
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Rick Draper
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Consideration should also be given to the fact that Chelsea were a top 4 club before the Russian bought them and already had some good quality players in place. We however were not, always around mid table at best and with a average squad and unstable financial foundations.
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Hammer
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quote: Originally posted by Steve
quote: Originally posted by Hammer
I'm not a fan of buying success, however, the United side that started against City in the derby last Monday cost more to assemble than City's.
You can't argue with the facts.
compare wages
I can't as I'm not CEO of either club unfortunately
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Ojc
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Man Utd are a spent force
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Marc
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I don't want to be seen as being bitter....
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Terry12
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quote: Originally posted by Rick Draper
Consideration should also be given to the fact that Chelsea were a top 4 club before the Russian bought them and already had some good quality players in place. We however were not, always around mid table at best and with a average squad and unstable financial foundations.
So you're talking about the days City were a below average team and you were a Liverpool fan
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mwg
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Jamescorsa97
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quote: Originally posted by Ojc
Man Utd are a spent force
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Ojc
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Yep who is next to be dug out of retirement? Brian McClair? Clayton Blackmore?
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Steve
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Steven Williams
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Williams_(footballer_born_1958)
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Rick Draper
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quote: Originally posted by Terry12
quote: Originally posted by Rick Draper
Consideration should also be given to the fact that Chelsea were a top 4 club before the Russian bought them and already had some good quality players in place. We however were not, always around mid table at best and with a average squad and unstable financial foundations.
So you're talking about the days City were a below average team and you were a Liverpool fan
Yawn.
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Oldish guy at work is a city fan and he's brought in all his 1968 football programs from the games he went to when he was 16, hes well excited bless him. Will feel a bit sorry for him if city fuck it up
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Ben J
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quote: Originally posted by Steve
Oldish guy at work is a city fan and he's brought in all his 1968 football programs from the games he went to when he was 16, hes well excited bless him. Will feel a bit sorry for him if city fuck it up
As a Utd fan you'll fee sorry for him if City fuck it up????
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JonnyJ
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quote: Originally posted by Ben J
quote: Originally posted by Steve
Oldish guy at work is a city fan and he's brought in all his 1968 football programs from the games he went to when he was 16, hes well excited bless him. Will feel a bit sorry for him if city fuck it up
As a Utd fan you'll fee sorry for him if City fuck it up????
You forget that Steve doesnt really have any feelings for his club either way. If they didnt win the title, he would be over it less than an hour after the final whistle, if that.
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kennySRi
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City will not fcuk it up anyway, there is no way QPR will get anything at the Etihad. If it was at QPR then there may of been a small chance.
Also, City are in this for the long term imo and will be a massive club in the near future and as a United fan that hurts to say it
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Hammer
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Depends what you mean by long term. When the Arabs fuck off to buy an F1 team or a Basketball team or whatever they fancy next City will be as in the shit as every other club riddled with debt.
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mwg
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I wouldn't feel sorry for them. My newish next door neighbour is a City fan. The guy that lived there before had a flag pole in the garden and he said to me don't be surprised if theres a City flag up there after Sunday So I said don't be surprised if you find it on fire All good banter
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