Steve
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When I went to Spain a few years ago there were shit loads of modded cars probably more than here, same goes for Germany last year
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K 5ive
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Originally posted by Steve
When I went to Spain a few years ago there were shit loads of modded cars probably more than here, same goes for Germany last year
Modified in what way? Tacky body mods?
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pow
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Body mods include different alloys don't they 
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tom130691
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theyve been threatening it for years on cars and bikes,
bikers had a big protest ride last year about it,
huge industry to just shut down and though the economy in to a worse state,
it also would take extra training for traffic cops to pick up on these mods. on bikes especially
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Steve
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Spain, bodykits, tinted windows, lowered , alloys etc, Germany all that plus engine changes, stripped out etc etc
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Balling
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Germany all that plus engine changes, stripped out etc etc
None of that is illegal in Germany. They do have to get engine mods approved though, which means doing them to a certain standard and not running a 200hp car with brakes intended for 55hp.
Also, stuff like increasing wheel diameter and having tyre thread poking out of the arches is illegal, hence the birth of tyre stretching and stupid camber.
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Gary
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It would take more than extra training. Take dtuk boxes forexample, how are you going to catch someone with oneof those if its removed at mot time?
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pow
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Originally posted by Balling
They do have to get engine mods approved though, which means doing them to a certain standard and not running a 200hp car with brakes intended for 55hp.
That is sensible though
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K 5ive
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Spain, bodykits, tinted windows, lowered , alloys etc, Germany all that plus engine changes, stripped out etc etc
Engine mods are heart and soul of any modding scene! Do you want that all stopped? Forget body mods for one moment, you all seem hung up on this.
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Steve
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What? Are you on crack
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kennySRi
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Spain is full of cars with aftermarket wheels, every other car that i see has them 
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Balling
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Originally posted by K 5ive
Engine mods are heart and soul of any modding scene! Do you want that all stopped? Forget body mods for one moment, you all seem hung up on this.
But you're the one who turned the discussion on alloy wheels and "all mods"!?
Also, taking some control over people putting any engine in any car seems like a perfectly sensible thing. Do you think people should just be allowed to do what they want and feel like with their cars at the possible expense of innocent lives? Of course there needs to be rules and regulations.
How these rules are enforced and exactly how strict they are is yet to be decided. From looking at that proposal, it seems feasible that more or less nothing is going to change in the UK.
And certainly not overnight.
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K 5ive
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http://cars.uk.msn.com/socialvoices/blogpost.aspx?post=c53aa272-0c7d-490c-94f8-ac3273f3dcc1&_nwpt=1
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K 5ive
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Originally posted by kennySRi
Spain is full of cars with aftermarket wheels, every other car that i see has them
All of these are small standard size wheels with the standard size tyres on them.
I have to take my car for the annual itv do you? Research before judging.
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Steve
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Yes, they are called MOT's over here
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Balling
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Are you for real? So you want to talk about spoilers and alloy wheels again?
Can't even tell if you're being a troll or if that link to a fear mongering article is supposed to support your earlier statements.
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Sunz
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The police can't even catch the people now who have modified their cars and not declared the mods to the insurance companies or the the huge amount of people on CBT licences or restricted access for motorcyclists who either have bore kits or don't use the 33bhp restrictor, so all these new rules will just be a waste of time, we love to have rules in this country and then not enforce them properly and efficiently.
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Balling
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quote:
Originally posted by Sunz
The police can't even catch the people now who have modified their cars and not declared the mods to the insurance companies or the the huge amount of people on CBT licences or restricted access for motorcyclists who either have bore kits or don't use the 33bhp restrictor, so all these new rules will just be a waste of time, we love to have rules in this country and then not enforce them properly and efficiently.
I can't say how things are enforced in the UK, but over here the police don't run around checking up modded cars, unless something is obviously off.
Your car has to be legal come MOT time. If you're pulled or in an accident and something is not as approved you'll get fined and, potentially, your insurance will not cover damages if your car isn't road legal.
Pretty basic stuff and not something that will put a strain on the police.
Still, what people seem to be overlooking is, that this proposition does not target car modding, but car checkups (MOTs). Basically it's just a way to ensure a high international standard of routine checks.
People not getting their cars repaired properly is potentially a much more dangerous issue than people getting 20hp more out of their engine.
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K 5ive
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Originally posted by Steve
Yes, they are called MOT's over here
Yes which differs greatly over here from yours. You may have seen cars running around on larger Alloys wheel combos but they are illegal! Simple as. You must have the ficha tecnica in your car at all times this details the spec of your car. If you get pulled which is a regualr occurence out here with road side stops everywhere. They will ask to see you documents. Anything that differs from the original spec and is not listed can be made to be taken off, fined or car impounded.
If a man was breaking into a house, just because you saw it does that make it legal?
Troll no! just someone who does not want to see freedoms within the modifying business being taken away. I am just amazed at the attacks and general apathy on a modified car site.
[Edited on 23-08-2012 by K 5ive]
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Steve
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Its does not differ greatly, in fact it probably looks more lax
http://costablanca.angloinfo.com/countries/spain/vrt.asp
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The ITV (Inspección Técnica de Vehículos) is the roadworthiness test of a motor vehicle in Spain. It is the equivalent of an MOT in the UK.
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Vehicles are tested to ensure the following parts are in proper working order:
tyre tread
lights
emissions
shock absorbers
brakes
wheel alignment
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Cars will also be checked for the condition of the bodywork and mirrors, windscreen and wipers. For example if a door cannot open it may be considered a safety violation.
all part of the UK test
[Edited on 23-08-2012 by Steve]
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K 5ive
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Its does not differ greatly, in fact it probably looks more lax
http://costablanca.angloinfo.com/countries/spain/vrt.asp
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The ITV (Inspección Técnica de Vehículos) is the roadworthiness test of a motor vehicle in Spain. It is the equivalent of an MOT in the UK.
and
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Vehicles are tested to ensure the following parts are in proper working order:
tyre tread
lights
emissions
shock absorbers
brakes
wheel alignment
also
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Cars will also be checked for the condition of the bodywork and mirrors, windscreen and wipers. For example if a door cannot open it may be considered a safety violation.
all part of the UK test
[Edited on 23-08-2012 by Steve]
It does not go into what is allowed though does it? Anyone can pull that bit of info up.
 Looks like i'm going to have to scan an ITV/ Ficha tecnica for all the non believers.
[Edited on 23-08-2012 by K 5ive]
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pow
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quote:
Originally posted by K 5ive
If a man was breaking into a house, just because you saw it does that make it legal?
[Edited on 23-08-2012 by K 5ive]
You spout some crap
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corsa-torque
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I didnt know Costa del "Norfolk" was in Spain?
Ive heard crap like this even before I started driving which is a good 10 years...
They cant even enforce driving without tax, mot, insurance... I dont think there going to chase every modified car owner down...
I think someone's just cranky because they havent had there afternoon siesta...
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Steve
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The ficha technica is simply a slightly more indepth version of a uk log book,
http://www.tenerifenews.com/index.php/news-mainmenu-1/features-mainmenu-26/18362--motoring-in-spain-what-is-a-ficha-tecnica-
it does not mean you cannot fit alloy wheels and bodykits
I imagine if you wanted to revert from some that spec you could simply apply to have it changed as you can on the UK log book, eg colour, number of seats etc
[Edited on 23-08-2012 by Steve]
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corsa-torque
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Originally posted by Pedro del Norfolk
I am just amazed at the attacks and general apathy on a modified car site.
[Edited on 23-08-2012 by Pedro del Norfolk]
I believe this is a Vauxhall Corsa Owners forum/club
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