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Gary
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29th Aug 12 at 19:18   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I know, I said I know but where is it written?
smcGSI16V
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Highway code isn't the LAW!
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29th Aug 12 at 19:19   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If its not written anywhere its not a law also.
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29th Aug 12 at 19:20   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

But it's the recognised guide. You should never overtake on a junction, it's in thre somewhere
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29th Aug 12 at 19:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

here it is:

DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example
•approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road
•where the road narrows
•when approaching a school crossing patrol
•between the kerb and a bus or tram when it is at a stop
•where traffic is queuing at junctions or road works
•when you would force another road user to swerve or slow down
•at a level crossing
•when a road user is indicating right, even if you believe the signal should have been cancelled. Do not take a risk; wait for the signal to be cancelled
•stay behind if you are following a cyclist approaching a roundabout or junction, and you intend to turn left
•when a tram is standing at a kerbside tram stop and there is no clearly marked passing lane for other traffic


smcGSI16V
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But what if said junction was a hiden side juction to somebodies drive. This is what I'm perseving as being the question as no normal person would overtake where visible juctions exist.
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29th Aug 12 at 19:34   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by pow
But it's the recognised guide. You should never overtake on a junction, it's in thre somewhere


It is yes. I posted. It on page 1. I'm on about having to look both ways when pulling out left
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It's your fault for not spotting the hidden junction, should always be driving to the conditions. If you didn't see it in time you aren't driving to the conditions.
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quote:
Originally posted by smcGSI16V
Highway code isn't the LAW!
But it does help to make the case that you were less negligent than the other guy.
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29th Aug 12 at 19:49   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Why have the highway code then actual law? Seems backward
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So that in theory every one is driving to the same book, same rules(not law) and in the same way so everything is standardised.
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The Highway Code is just advice which draws together law, good practice and safe driving in general.

You can't prosecute on the basis of it but I've used it a few times in accidents and its never done me any harm quoting bits of it.
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quote:
Originally posted by Gary
Why have the highway code then actual law? Seems backward
Because most people wouldn't be bothered to read actual law.
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29th Aug 12 at 20:42   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Gary
Why have the highway code then actual law? Seems backward


The Road Traffic Act does reference the Highway Code directly
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29th Aug 12 at 20:53   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

100% wrong, you where on the wrong side of the road.

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29th Aug 12 at 21:09   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Were*

I wasn't on the wrong side of the road as I didn't perform the move.
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29th Aug 12 at 21:33   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Here, there, every where as in a place (wrong side of road)
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29th Aug 12 at 23:46   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Still wrong usage you lovely bloke
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quote:
Originally posted by LiVe LeE
quote:
Originally posted by Gary
Why have the highway code then actual law? Seems backward


The Road Traffic Act does reference the Highway Code directly
The other way around isn't it? The Highway Code references bits of RTA and other legislation.
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No RTA has direct reference to highway code; part 1, section 38 Road Traffic Act 1988
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I think it's also specifically mentioned in individual sections as well-remember from the driving barefoot thread and the filtering through traffic on a motorbike threads when instead of working, I read most of the RTA
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On the bike test you are told never to overtake past a junction but mostly for the reason that the car you're overtaking could suddenly turn right across you
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googlemap link to junction where this was?
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MODERATED.
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It's 80/20 in favour of the established party if the junction is to the nearsife. so I'd say 50/50 in this case.

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