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VINCEYBOY

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9th Oct 12 at 08:08

scene? what? how?

Ben G

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9th Oct 12 at 09:32

well, it's a bit different

those spacers seem to have been fed some sort of steroid. are they safe?

chrisritch

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9th Oct 12 at 09:40

i like where this thread is going

chrisritch

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9th Oct 12 at 09:40

Also im confused, Is it black, yellow or purple?

Jed D

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9th Oct 12 at 09:56

must admit i love the matt black look but not too sure on all the stickers etc..

sorry just read you've removed them now

[Edited on 09-10-2012 by Jed D]

flybikeslee

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9th Oct 12 at 10:03

toss

Liam-Wilko

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9th Oct 12 at 10:42

were you from buddy? if ya not to far away you can come collect this star silver spoiler its got the base place its free if you want it and close enough to collect

[Edited on 09-10-2012 by Liam-Wilko]

VINCEYBOY

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9th Oct 12 at 21:43

quote:
Originally posted by Liam-Wilko
were you from buddy? if ya not to far away you can come collect this star silver spoiler its got the base place its free if you want it and close enough to collect

[Edited on 09-10-2012 by Liam-Wilko]

waterlooville area, portsmouth aint too much of a treck at all for me.

will it go striaght on?

VINCEYBOY

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9th Oct 12 at 21:43

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Originally posted by flybikeslee
toss

thanks mate.

VINCEYBOY

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9th Oct 12 at 21:45

quote:
Originally posted by chrisritch
i like where this thread is going

haha cheers!

it's matt black with a silvery grey bonnet, checkered roof, and a blue (faded to purple) boot. but that's only blue because i haven't painted it yet lol

VINCEYBOY

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9th Oct 12 at 21:49

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
well, it's a bit different

those spacers seem to have been fed some sort of steroid. are they safe?

yeah i did the maths people run a LOT worse than this with no problems at all, but as i say, bandeds on the front when they come, then spacers on the rear.

tom130691

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9th Oct 12 at 22:15

quote:
Originally posted by VINCEYBOY

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
well, it's a bit different

those spacers seem to have been fed some sort of steroid. are they safe?

yeah i did the maths people run a LOT worse than this with no problems at all, but as i say, bandeds on the front when they come, then spacers on the rear.

your putting alot more load through everything, simple principles of leverage

will munch bearings, imo looks stupid and will look worse with massive arches you will legaly need to cover the tyres

VINCEYBOY

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10th Oct 12 at 13:39

quote:
Originally posted by tom130691

quote:
Originally posted by VINCEYBOY

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
well, it's a bit different

those spacers seem to have been fed some sort of steroid. are they safe?

yeah i did the maths people run a LOT worse than this with no problems at all, but as i say, bandeds on the front when they come, then spacers on the rear.

your putting alot more load through everything, simple principles of leverage

will munch bearings, imo looks stupid and will look worse with massive arches you will legaly need to cover the tyres

As much as i'm prepared to accept constructive critisism ... Go away. there is no difference AT ALL in running spacers compared to running low offset wheels, providing hubcentric bolt on spacers are used. i respect your opinion on not liking the look of it, but it's a project thread not a showroom. and this car isnt design to please anyone but the driver. The fact that you don't like it makes me like it even more quite frankly.

AND even if I did accept that running 2 of these spacers on the rears was bad for my car (and i'm not saying I do) you arent really in a position to critisize. your corsa look i dunno 70mm lowered? the amount of stress your driveshaft in under, because it is now sitting at completely the wrong angle is doing far more expensive (and irreversible) damage to your car than munching 2 bearings.

And please dont lecture me on legalities on cars I've been working at an MOT center for 3 years now. i know the rules mate.

Steve

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10th Oct 12 at 13:56

then youl know that the tread cant protrude outside the lines of the car.

so when you buying the arches?

Gary

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10th Oct 12 at 14:04

Trolololololol @ wheels being legal!

If thats whats 'cool' nowadays i'm glad im not down with the kids.

tom130691

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10th Oct 12 at 14:28

quote:
Originally posted by VINCEYBOY

AND even if I did accept that running 2 of these spacers on the rears was bad for my car (and i'm not saying I do) you arent really in a position to critisize. your corsa look i dunno 70mm lowered? the amount of stress your driveshaft in under, because it is now sitting at completely the wrong angle is doing far more expensive (and irreversible) damage to your car than munching 2 bearings.

And please dont lecture me on legalities on cars I've been working at an MOT center for 3 years now. i know the rules mate.

pretty sure youll find the idea of the universal joint is to allow drive at various angle, by lowering the car i have decreased the angle,

if you had said put the drive shaft in to compression i would have to agree, but you didnt

i do calculations and FEA analysis on suspension systems ect at uni, imo my set up is alot less likey to do and serious wear than yours

please explain how im doing more irreversible damage to mine by lowering it?, with up graded suspension designed to take more load than i will ever put on it? im genuinely interested in the harm im doing to my precious auto mobile

Steve

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10th Oct 12 at 14:32

some driveshafts do have max imum advised angles in their spec.

for example ford driveshafts are no greater than 45 degrees at the inner end and 70 degrees at the outer, outside this you put wear on the cv joints, iv seen people go through cvs for having their car too low, and lowering say 70+ degrees does tend to put them outside spec, however this isnt exclusive to all cars

however it wont harm your driveshaft as he claimed

[Edited on 10-10-2012 by Steve]

VINCEYBOY

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10th Oct 12 at 15:20

Iv'e read everything you've all had to say, I've taken it all in and decided that i haven't explained my plans to you very well. The photo is of a trial fitment in my drive. I didn't even torque the wheels up. My car is on the road at the moment with no spacers. The arches have been ordered and should be here on monday, if not this friday.

Shit of it is, if i'm damaging my car, meh, it's a throughaway car anyway. something else will definately brake on it before i do any bearing damage. All i meant was by lowering a car you are putting all of the geometry outside the range they are designed to work effectively in and last the longest in. That said if you do it properly the pros will far outweigh the cons. and i'm sure if you are doing calculations and FEA analysis on suspension systems ect at uni then your set up is probably spot on and you know you have no need to worry about damaging your car. I didn't mean to piss anyone off or slag off anyones cars.

I'm probably lowering my car in the next month too so i'm not hating on lowered cars either

and what does FEA stand for anyway?

VINCEYBOY

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10th Oct 12 at 15:25

One more thing, let's not hate on each others cars because they arent to our own taste, i see some very ugly cars on forums but i keep my opinions to myself if i have nothing constructive of nice to say.

Lets all be friends.

VINCEYBOY

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10th Oct 12 at 15:28

Ayone lowered a b 60mm on standard size wheels? come by some 60mm springs and shocks cheap.

Will 60mm look really low? i'm trying to imagine what it'll look like. i just dont want it to look really low and fragile looking. if you know what i mean.

tom130691

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10th Oct 12 at 16:07

FEA - Finite Element Analysis

basic terms you make the part in catia then add loads to the part and the software will calculate if the part will fail and show visual representation

quick google image to show you