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richc

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15th Mar 13 at 10:04

Corsa nut in 'look at this car im not going to buy thread'

Keep the skoda - surely the cars you are looking at will only save you 'pennys' in the style of driving you are doing?

CORSA NUT

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15th Mar 13 at 12:26

Yeah it is getting like that isn't it rich

Don't know what to do/get. Skoda just isn't doing it for me at the minute

pow

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16th Mar 13 at 09:56

530d job done

gavin18787

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16th Mar 13 at 10:42

Wont be any better on fuel then the vrs. more fun if you want it though. never had a vrs but assume thats a much better cruiser on the mway etc

Drives supercharged Tec with torque

Simon L

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16th Mar 13 at 10:47

I went from a 270bhp REVO'd TT, to a FN2 CTR and love it.

Okay it's no where near as fast in a straight line, but it carries much more speed through corners, and is so much fun to drive.

To the people that say it's gutless below VTEC, i thought that too, as i was used to putting my foot down in whatever gear and letting the torque pull me along. But once you get used to the engine, and use the right gear, it's not gutless at all.

CORSA NUT

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16th Mar 13 at 15:04

quote:
Originally posted by pow
530d job done

These look a bit

plus the sport models are out my budget.

Considering getting a cheap car and doing my bike test now. That way I get the best of both worlds.

CORSA NUT

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16th Mar 13 at 15:08

quote:
Originally posted by Simon L
I went from a 270bhp REVO'd TT, to a FN2 CTR and love it.

Okay it's no where near as fast in a straight line, but it carries much more speed through corners, and is so much fun to drive.

To the people that say it's gutless below VTEC, i thought that too, as i was used to putting my foot down in whatever gear and letting the torque pull me along. But once you get used to the engine, and use the right gear, it's not gutless at all.

I think it's the way it delivers the performance that I don't like

my RB5 was probably slower but the drama in the way it delivers the power is what I like! The VRS is marginally better on fuel around town, like 10-15 miles more to £20 to put it in perspective but on the motorway it will do 35 mpg driven sensibly. The Scooby would do 18-20 no matter what.

Simon L

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16th Mar 13 at 16:50

The way i look at it is, if i'm going for it i'll be taking it to the redline, and when i change up the revs will drop down back into VTEC. So there is no change in power delivery.

The only difference is the first gear you put your foot down in, it will be progressive and linear. Rather then a big wave of torque.

taylorboosh

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16th Mar 13 at 16:58

Vtec doesnt work in 1st iir

taylorboosh

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16th Mar 13 at 16:59

Or is that when revving i forget

Simon L

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16th Mar 13 at 16:59

"the first gear you put your foot down in", not 1st gear.

taylorboosh

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16th Mar 13 at 17:07

No traffic light gps?

chrex

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16th Mar 13 at 17:13

This myth that the K20 is gutless is not true to be honest. Yea its not got the torque of (for example) a 2litre vauxhall engine below say...4k, but thats because its got so much more above 4k in that comparison.

It just means you can't drive lazy and have to be in the right gear at the right time for what you want the car to do. My two Hondas have been the best cars i've owned, and definitely the most capable.

Vtec does work in every gear, it just doesn't engage if you're matching revs for a downshift (so basically only engages under load).

[Edited on 16-03-2013 by chrex]

big eck

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16th Mar 13 at 18:39

Basically you need to rev the tits off it for it to be of any good use lol.

Corsa_Sport21

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16th Mar 13 at 19:24

Thing is though, you don't have to be in vtec for normal driving. They aren't gutless out of vtec.

They still make over 100lb/ft around 4krpm, same as pretty much any other decent 2.0 n/a engine. Even under 4k the torque figures against say a c20xe is around the same at the same revs.

[Edited on 16-03-2013 by Corsa_Sport21]

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16th Mar 13 at 19:25

The Type-R is only bad on fuel if your thrash it about all the time.

sc0ott

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16th Mar 13 at 19:27

Pre face lift front bumpers are ugly.

Corsa_Sport21

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16th Mar 13 at 19:29

quote:
Originally posted by sc0ott
Pre face lift front end's are ugly and dated looking.

taylorboosh

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16th Mar 13 at 19:54

Prefer pre face

Corsa_Sport21

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16th Mar 13 at 19:56

Most people who could only afford the pre-face do tend to prefer the pre-face.

Yours was a pre-face was it not john??

CORSA NUT

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16th Mar 13 at 19:56

Me too, the rear lights look crap on the face lifts IMO

CORSA NUT

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16th Mar 13 at 19:56

quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Most people who could only afford the pre-face do tend to prefer the pre-face.

Yours was a pre-face was it not john??

Ouch

Corsa_Sport21

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16th Mar 13 at 19:57

Face-lift car with pre-face rears is the way to go.

big eck

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16th Mar 13 at 19:59

They are gutless tho. My old xe Corsa had much better pulling power than the type R. That's the thing p, if you don't thrash them then there pretty pants IMO. Mixed driving and you'll struggle to see over 30mpg which is shit for a 2tr n/a car.

big eck

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16th Mar 13 at 20:00

I also think the pre-facelift fronts look bland as fuck.

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