pro8186
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Most newer hgv go through them flat out at 56mph (limiter) as the average speed cameras wont do you at 56mph, your allowed 10% over the speed limit without getting prosecuted. The signs dont tell you that though, as for cars doing 60-70 even more their taking a risk. Article in local paper last year stated how many thousands were paid in fines from the average cameras situated on the m54 telford.
[Edited on 02-01-2015 by pro8186]
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pro8186
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Originally posted by Ben G
I got done on the M6, cunts made the 50 look like 60 and I got caught doing 61. These are the type that display a speed on them which they can change.
I know this as I had my cruise control on. Wankers.
There was a bbc article about it, but I had already done the speed awareness course by that time, so didn't bother trying to claim anything back.
[Edited on 18-12-2014 by Ben G]
Watched thatprogramme about speed signs having the wrong font resulting in 1000's having their fines squashed. some average bloke took his case to the high court of appeal and won.
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Ben G
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Yeah i would've done that but I only got the speed awareness course and the £90 to pay for it.
If i had got points, I'd have appealed it, but it's not worth going to court over it in my case.
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Cavey
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Hate the variable speed limits
Are there queues because they've needlessly reduced the speed, or have the reduced the speed because there's queues? 
Always seems to be queues through them, then once they stop traffic flows perfectly fine, luckily I don't do motorways too often so don't come across them that much
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nibnob21
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They're used when volune of traffic is high to keep people moving. At a slower speed you can safely be closer to the car in front, so if everyone goes the same slower speed it actually gets you through quicker. Generally you'll find wat the point where you can go back to the national limit it's just past a major junction where a lot of the traffic splits off.
M42 northbound past Birmingham for example, they often have the limits on, then once you're past the junction where it splits off for the M6 and a lot of the traffic filters off the limits come off.
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MatthewR
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Originally posted by Ian
Should be an instant ban for anyone who brakes near one.
AMEN
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Ben G
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Variable speed limits are absolutely useless.
Coming from scotland a few days ago, all was erfectly fine until we hit the m25 and due to heavy traffic they had gantrys with varying limits of 60, 50 and 40.
Funnily enough, there was no traffic at all and it went back to NSL.
Massive money making exercise is all they are.
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Whittie
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Yes, think I was doing 85ish at the time. Didn't think they were real either.
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Whittie
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Originally posted by Andrew
Alex is always getting done 
Back up drivers are the way forward.
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Ian
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quote:
Originally posted by pro8186
Most newer hgv go through them flat out at 56mph
Really? Not my experience.
quote:
Originally posted by pro8186
average speed cameras wont do you at 56mph
Probably won't - but there's nothing to say they definitely won't.
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Originally posted by pro8186
your allowed 10% over the speed limit without getting prosecuted.
No you're not, there are guidelines to introduce a bit of leniency in order to be sensible but you're not "allowed" anything. If the force decides they can handle the paperwork and appeals, you're not going to use being allowed to speed as a defence for speeding.
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Ian
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
Variable speed limits are absolutely useless.
Coming from scotland a few days ago, all was erfectly fine until we hit the m25 and due to heavy traffic they had gantrys with varying limits of 60, 50 and 40.
Funnily enough, there was no traffic at all and it went back to NSL.
I think your problem there is the M25 being a shit motorway full of twats.
VSL works OK further north. There's nothing to stop the signs changing as you're moving through them. That's not making money, that's dealing with the conditions at that moment.
I still maintain the biggest problem with VSL or average checks is the wankers who can't use them.
50 on the sat nav on the cruise isn't hard and if you don't have the technology, move the fuck over.
Nothing worse in the world today than being in L2 up a hill with a trailer on and some nobhead brakes down to 40 on sight of the camera then back up to 60 because you nearly rear ended the cunt.
Genuinely can't wait for fuel to be £5/litre and braking on a motorway being punishable by jail.
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Ben G
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I drove over 250 miles without touching the brakes over Christmas. Would've been 400, but had to stop for fuel.
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SVM 286
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Originally posted by R Lee
Everybody that has driven on the motorway, have encountered roadworks with these variable/average speed cameras.
The ones that are bright yellow, mounted on the side of the road, or overhead. Normally with a bright pink, or red lens.
They're a very common sight nowadays...
But, have any of you guys actually ever been busted by one? Or know of anybody that has?
I often see people drive at a considerably higher speed than permitted but wonder what are the consequences, if any? Literally do not know of a single person ever caught by them!
Funnily enough, I think these are the only type of camera i've not been nicked by.
That said, as soon as I see them coming up, I jump in lane 1 and drop my speed to about 2mph below the prescribed limit just to be on the safe side.
(i've been far more cautious and patient since being banned)
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SVM 286
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
Variable speed limits are absolutely useless.
Coming from scotland a few days ago, all was erfectly fine until we hit the m25 and due to heavy traffic they had gantrys with varying limits of 60, 50 and 40.
Funnily enough, there was no traffic at all and it went back to NSL.
I think your problem there is the M25 being a shit motorway full of twats.
VSL works OK further north. There's nothing to stop the signs changing as you're moving through them. That's not making money, that's dealing with the conditions at that moment.
I still maintain the biggest problem with VSL or average checks is the wankers who can't use them.
50 on the sat nav on the cruise isn't hard and if you don't have the technology, move the fuck over.
Nothing worse in the world today than being in L2 up a hill with a trailer on and some nobhead brakes down to 40 on sight of the camera then back up to 60 because you nearly rear ended the cunt.
Genuinely can't wait for fuel to be £5/litre and braking on a motorway being punishable by jail.
I think someone may have slipped some lettuce into Ian's burger today.
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