Makarus
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Registered: 25th Jun 02
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Dont talk to me like I am an idiot, the fact is I dont really want the points, if I can find a way not to take the points then all the better for me, there is no harm in trying, and it costs nothing to find all the devidence and check its all in order so I dont see why I shouldnt give it a blast.
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jm960326
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Yeah all means try, but there is a time limit on paying the fine so watch out. You say Im talking to you like your an idiot, what??? You've said that you were speeding-admitted that. Your trying to get out of being caught, even saying that they were hiden, coasting down a hill, also only doing 38-40.
sure that'll stand up in court, 'Sir I was speeding but I didnt see the camera and i was going down a hill. Oh and I was only just over the limit.'
Ok we'll let it go this time then.
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Makarus
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I aint trying to say I should be let off for those reasons, its just a little annoying. What I am trying to do is find if there is a way I can get out of it, I always thought the van had to be clearly visable just like the camera's.
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dannycorsa c
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i got done for 44 in a 30 put my insurance up by 200 the next year ohwell!
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ELZ_Sri
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Registered: 24th Mar 03
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Dwight Yorke got off 'cos he hired an expert lawyer who was very experienced in using allthe rules and regulations to get his client off. The guy would have known he could get him off before he went to court. The bill for his services was probably thousands not hundreds. You cannot possible be as prepared as these expert lawyers and probably could not afford to hire one, so you'd have little chance in getting them over some technicalities as they've probably heard them all before and have a way round them. You would probably end up with the same points and bigger fine & costs as well!
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MarkM
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Take fine and points and leave it!
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Corsa Sport Gav
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Registered: 12th Feb 03
Location: Durham, County Durham Drives: A6 Allroad
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are all camera vans transit?
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Corsa Sport Gav
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ttt..... anyone know?
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R Lee
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Registered: 15th Aug 03
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quote:
Originally posted by Punto_Gav
are all camera vans transit?
dont think so...
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Corsa Sport Gav
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oki cheers m8y
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Rob H
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The van doesnt need to be clearly marked. Just the square white camera symbol on the back of the van is enough warning. In court if you mention that kids were blocking the view you will be laughed at! Firstly for being stupid enough to speed when there are kids playing in the road, and trying to contest the speeding fine. Secondly if there your excuse for the van being "hidden" it wont hold up, as they arent a static object, and so there's nothing the people in the van could have done about it.
Also im pretty sure the cameras they use are laser type ones... they dont need calibrating.
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Makarus
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Registered: 25th Jun 02
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All camera's need to be calibrated every single day, they need inspecting. If they aren't always checked for calibration there is no way they can be certain that its readings are correct.
The van I saw had just a white back no other markings to be seen until I passed it, also the area in which they were conducting the speed traps has no signs saying that speed camera's do operate in the area.
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3CorsaMeal
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quote:
Originally posted by Punto_Gav
are all camera vans transit?
no, alot of em are unmarked citreon/peugeot (can't remember which) but its that belingo thing......i look for the cage in the back windows
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Makarus
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Registered: 25th Jun 02
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The ones round my end are new tranny vans..........
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ELZ_Sri
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One operating by me this week was a white transit parked on the grass verge alongside a 40mph sign. The only warning was a portable camera sign set up in front of it. The road is a 30mph though a built up area which then opens up around a bend onto a long straight. The sign (and camera van) is about 100 yds along this straight. They were getting loads of drivers who were 'opening up' as they left the built up area but before the 40mph sign. There's a lay-by further down the road and they were pulling them in and booking them. There was four getting booked at a time when I went past.
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R Lee
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dont the police have to show a sign of a camera within 1/4 mile of the actual camera?
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drunkenfool
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if anyone says that isnt just a money making scheme they must be stupid! What harm does it do going a couple if miles an hour a few meters before a faster speed limit, when you have left the residential area?! Surely it would be more effective to stop people speeding in those areas where it could be dangerous, not just wehre they know they will get more income...
[Edited on 11-09-2003 by drunkenfool]
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Makarus
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Registered: 25th Jun 02
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It is stupid and this is why I dont want to let them just have my money.
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p4ult
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Registered: 1st Apr 02
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If there were kids playing near a van, you should have slowed down under 30 and not been doing over 30, if u see kids playing at the side of the road near a van, there may be a chance of one of them running out from behind it!
I think if you take this one to court they will just laff at u if u use those excuses!
Be a man and take the points and admit u were wrong!!
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Makarus
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Its extremely hard for me to explain the layout of it all.
The kids weren't playing, they were waiting for a bus and at the time dancing along thinking they were funny to my music.
as you come down the hill on the oposite side of the road there is a layby thats a bus stop, then the actual bus stop shelter and then just past the shelter futher back from the road there was the van, and the copper was stood with him camera out on a tripod in line with the bus stop with no yellow coat on.
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p4ult
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At the end of the day you were speeding and in the eyes of the law theres no excuse for that,
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Trucido
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Registered: 14th Jun 03
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its kinda like saying I only stole a £10 top I could of stole a £50 top and the cameras werent clearly marked imho. The vans are there for safety and to catch you breaking the law...I dont see why they cant be hidden anywhere tbh
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