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Graham88
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Registered: 16th Apr 07
Location: South East Kent Drives: E46 M3
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7th Dec 09 at 04:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Love it, but all that power and drums on the rear, made me laugh
thegsi
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Location: Kidderminster Drives: Evo (you can't afford one)
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7th Dec 09 at 07:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Graham88
Love it, but all that power and drums on the rear, made me laugh


Not very sensible I know but fok it
Col004
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7th Dec 09 at 07:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Graham88
Love it, but all that power and drums on the rear, made me laugh


Rear disk's are absolutely no benefit on the back of a corsa and if anything it will make it worse and lock up even with a bais valve fitted with the weight thats over the front end. Good brakes upfront is all that is needed.... most peeps only put them on for show purposes as they do look better..

If you go the full hog which is not cheap... then a bias pedal box with the correct cylinders and a bais valve.. Then you have full control over preventing the back from locking up with disk.. Even then it could still be touch and go.

[Edited on 07-12-2009 by Col004]
matthew172
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7th Dec 09 at 18:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if the drums are working correctly they are every bit as good as a disk setup
Graham88
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7th Dec 09 at 18:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Drums are as good as discs? Seriously wtf?
matthew172
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7th Dec 09 at 18:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

rather have drums tbh
Nic Barnes
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7th Dec 09 at 18:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Graham88
Drums are as good as discs? Seriously wtf?


its to do with the added weight over the front with bigger engine. ive had discs and gone back to drums as it just feels better when braking hard. yeah bias valves whatever. but drums work perfectly fine on the rear of a corsa.
thegsi
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7th Dec 09 at 18:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The rear brakes only give like 20% overall braking anyway don't they?
Nic Barnes
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7th Dec 09 at 18:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

see if you are happy with the drums ted, then if not try discs and see what you make of it. i have no weight in the back of my car, so discs make it awful, drums are spot on for me. maybe some people like the back end to brake harder than the front causing some skids.
thegsi
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7th Dec 09 at 18:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I have never considered a rear disk conversion to be honest but my car does struggle under breaking if you're braking hard from high speeds and at times locks up How do the small Corsa MS cope with V6 brakes?
Nic Barnes
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7th Dec 09 at 18:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

turbo calipers are better than the v6 brakes tbh. the small master cylinder works find with the reylands i have. good stopping power in my views and ive tested them braking from 160+ and im well happy.
thegsi
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7th Dec 09 at 18:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
turbo calipers are better than the v6 brakes tbh. the small master cylinder works find with the reylands i have. good stopping power in my views and ive tested them braking from 160+ and im well happy.


Oh right Cavvy Turbo set up? Is that bigger calipers and brakes? I only have 2L Cavvy brakes on atm and I don't rate them over my 1.6 set up if I'm honest.
Nic Barnes
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7th Dec 09 at 18:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the cavalier and calibra turbo are 288, discs etc pretty much similar size to v6, just for some reason the turbo calipers dont leave you with the spongey feel people always mention.

the 2litre cav ones are only thicker really than the standard corsa 1.6 ones so not really a massive improvement. also vented near the centre of the disc.

from what ive read elsewhere, warren g sells a 280mm caliper and disc kit, all new vauxhall stuff and people seem to rate it highly. think its around 300 pounds. worth a u2u anyway.

i ran the turbo calipers and disc set up when i had a pub talk 400+ bhp and i thought they were not too bad. i only really changed them as the reyland set up came up for sale cheapish.

with the current pub talk bhp i have, id still rather keep the drums on the back. thats my personal view anyway.
cayenne15
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7th Dec 09 at 19:02   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

nice one Jay! gonna look even better from the front! i tbh i didnt think it could look much better! hopefully i will be at the meet on sunday in my swedish pooowwerrrrr
thegsi
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7th Dec 09 at 19:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Great stuff cheers for the advice Nic.

Luke, you best come along to the meet! Looking forward to seeing your new motor
cayenne15
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7th Dec 09 at 19:41   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yep all sorted now mate! im going , im gonna give it a very good clean on saturday if its nice! so it should *touches wood* be sparkling!!
dan-sport
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7th Dec 09 at 19:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

fruitbooter isn't going in his anymore so i donno if i can come anymore
cayenne15
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7th Dec 09 at 19:44   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you wanna lift dan
dan-sport
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7th Dec 09 at 19:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if you have one going mate be nice to see the new beast first haha
cayenne15
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7th Dec 09 at 19:48   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeah i have 3 spare, U2U me your number and i will arrange all the details with you mate.
thegsi
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7th Dec 09 at 20:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Good lads
cayenne15
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7th Dec 09 at 20:51   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you taught us to love one another Jay! its the least i can do for my fellow WM members!!
Graham88
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8th Dec 09 at 04:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by Graham88
Drums are as good as discs? Seriously wtf?


its to do with the added weight over the front with bigger engine. ive had discs and gone back to drums as it just feels better when braking hard. yeah bias valves whatever. but drums work perfectly fine on the rear of a corsa.

No I understand why people keep drums on the rear, just I thought he meant drums were better than discs in general, eg drums up front, which was a laughable comment

I'm gonna go discs on the rear of mine although if I'm honest it will mostly be for looks. But then the ST's come with discs standard so they kind of come standard in a way so won't be like a Corsa.
thegsi
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19th Dec 09 at 10:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Well the Intercooler is all finished now. So happy with the way it looks

In progress:



Mr. Marshall doing the honors:



and completed!


















This was printed in TV this month. Still waiting on our proper feature though

cayenne15
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19th Dec 09 at 11:22   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

cant wait for the proper feature

the intercooler looks the dogs danglies!!

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