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andy1868

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13th Oct 08 at 13:18

fair enough, so in fact we're actually arguing over 5 or 6lbs/ft of torque? based on a standard engine?

we are pathetic

Corsa_Sport21

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13th Oct 08 at 13:21

quote:
Originally posted by andy1868
fair enough, so in fact we're actually arguing over 5 or 6lbs/ft of torque? based on a standard engine? we are pathetic

Tell me about it

What are the torque figs of an ITR as standard?

andy1868

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13th Oct 08 at 13:23

mine made 122lbs/ft at the wheel, supposedly high 130s at the fly

Corsa_Sport21

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13th Oct 08 at 13:25

quote:
Originally posted by andy1868
mine made 122lbs/ft at the wheel, supposedly high 130s at the fly

Now this may sound silly but arent torque figs calculated at the wheels??

andy1868

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13th Oct 08 at 13:26

i thought the same, but apparently not

Corsa_Sport21

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13th Oct 08 at 13:36

Im pretty sure it is at the wheels.As lb/ft is a force,which will mean its the force that the wheels are putting on the rollers.

Heres a RR graph of my old pulsar and it dosnt have 2 outputs for wheels and engine like the BHP does...

[Edited on 13-10-2008 by Corsa_Sport21]

pow

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13th Oct 08 at 13:49

quote:
Originally posted by andy1868
you're just jealous of my excessive RPM or should i say lee's, as he got it to 9 and it didn't stop

[Edited on 13-10-2008 by andy1868]

My car dreams of 6krmp

flybikeslee

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13th Oct 08 at 14:27

yeah, the apexi ecu on the b18 goes to 9 and doesn't limit, i didint want to go any futher

Corsa_Sport21

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13th Oct 08 at 14:57

May i ask what is the benefit of revving a car that high when driven on the road??

flybikeslee

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13th Oct 08 at 14:58

don't have to change so early, pull on people in the gears

Corsa_Scotty

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13th Oct 08 at 15:00

VTEC, because its worth it!

Corsa_Sport21

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13th Oct 08 at 15:08

quote:
Originally posted by flybikeslee
don't have to change so early, pull on people in the gears

But surely a car that makes its power at say 6500k is gonna be banging up the gears quicker than something revving to 8500k.And higher gears=more speed.

So a car revving to 9k will still be in 1st when the other car is nearly halfway thro 2nd and carrying the speed.

For comparison sake,a C20XE fitted with an F16 is gonna be quicker than the equivilent with an F20 as he is gonna be up the box quicker.But will lose out on top end if the boxes are like for like.

How much RPM does a honda have to play with when u go flat out in 1st then change into 2nd??

flybikeslee

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13th Oct 08 at 15:47

makes power and still pulls at about 7800rpm,
1st gear to 8500 32mph
2nd gear 702
3rd gear 100
4th gear 130
5th gear..........

andy1868

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13th Oct 08 at 22:27

702mph in 2nd?

Z20LET_Corsa

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14th Oct 08 at 02:02

My car does 820mph in 2nd

pow

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14th Oct 08 at 08:48

Mine does 52

flybikeslee

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14th Oct 08 at 14:49

new alloy radiator

progress on the eg

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14th Oct 08 at 20:34

looking good flybikeslee u will be very pleased with the new engine, i have the b18c engine in my teg and don't stop pulling, maybe due to mine having slightly more torque

BTW i would rather a teg anyday over a xe

just wait for a corner

bieransri

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14th Oct 08 at 21:44

quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21

quote:
Originally posted by flybikeslee
don't have to change so early, pull on people in the gears

But surely a car that makes its power at say 6500k is gonna be banging up the gears quicker than something revving to 8500k.And higher gears=more speed.

So a car revving to 9k will still be in 1st when the other car is nearly halfway thro 2nd and carrying the speed.

For comparison sake,a C20XE fitted with an F16 is gonna be quicker than the equivilent with an F20 as he is gonna be up the box quicker.But will lose out on top end if the boxes are like for like.

How much RPM does a honda have to play with when u go flat out in 1st then change into 2nd??

vtec make peak power waaaaay higher up than an xe. completely different to drive.

Corsa_Sport21

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14th Oct 08 at 22:44

quote:
Originally posted by bieransri

quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21

quote:
Originally posted by flybikeslee
don't have to change so early, pull on people in the gears

But surely a car that makes its power at say 6500k is gonna be banging up the gears quicker than something revving to 8500k.And higher gears=more speed.

So a car revving to 9k will still be in 1st when the other car is nearly halfway thro 2nd and carrying the speed.

For comparison sake,a C20XE fitted with an F16 is gonna be quicker than the equivilent with an F20 as he is gonna be up the box quicker.But will lose out on top end if the boxes are like for like.

How much RPM does a honda have to play with when u go flat out in 1st then change into 2nd??

vtec make peak power waaaaay higher up than an xe. completely different to drive.

Yes i know that but after being in a DC2 for the 1st time the other night,i would prefer the way an XE delivers power over a VTEC.IMHO its just a noise.
Id rather be changing up the gears rather than revving for every last bit of power.And lets face it,VTEC dosnt make power till after 6krp.By then an XE is at full pulling power and ready to go into a higher gear with more pulling power on tap.

andy1868

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14th Oct 08 at 22:47

this is why they're no good round town mate. don't drop out of the vtec when spanking it and its always in the power isn't it?

can you explain why vtec is just noise please, look at this graph and tell me vtec is just noise

[Edited on 14-10-2008 by andy1868]

Corsa_Sport21

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14th Oct 08 at 22:53

Just my personal opinion.Dont mean to offend any1.
When i was in my mates DC2 i heard VTEC kick in and felt the faintest of changes in the power.Not much but theyr was a tad theyr.And after looking at the speedo,its didnt climb any quicker.

Its maybe noticeable more on a graph,but certainly aint as much on the road.

P.S i aint slating DC2s in the slightest,i would abs love 1 and after being in mentioned DC2 i was very impressed at the way it handles.

But power wise,id rather have the XE delivery and powerband.

FlaFFy_91

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15th Oct 08 at 08:42

after being in lees vtec i have to strongly dissagree

fair enough i do not know alot about the vtec power as it is and i dont know about all thes b16's and what not your talking about but

after being in lees car and seeing what the power out of that can do . i have to say there is a HUGE difference between normal and vtec.

sorry i know it was a bit of a random post there but i thought id get in on this convo

FlaFFy
=]

flybikeslee

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15th Oct 08 at 16:52

vtec is noticable fact.

new headlights

Corsa_Scotty

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15th Oct 08 at 17:02

didnt you buy headlights not long ago lee?

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