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Author what do you think is the best hot hatch? (supermini and fairly new cars only)
Sooty
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106GTiwas tested against a cooper s.... GTi came out on top FYI
Marc D
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i`ll add the mini to the list then
Marc D
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i cant
vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by Screaming Vtec
You can laugh, but the Cooper S would beat any of the other Shitboxes listed, for handling, and for fun!

Who cares what it looks like, cars are for drving first and foremost



well they are too slow
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quote:
Originally posted by Screaming Vtec
You can laugh, but the Cooper S would beat any of the other Shitboxes listed, for handling, and for fun!

Who cares what it looks like, cars are for drving first and foremost


The new Renault Clio 182Cup would thrash this round a track, and in a straightline

So for me, the new Clio
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9th Nov 03 at 13:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
They aint that slow, epecially when compared to most of the 'hot-hatchs' you have listed..

I find it amusing how the post if moddified, so its only small new hatches, when the Clio's main rival is the CTR..
BabyBlade
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Personally i dont rate the new mini c s, my boss has one and my mates 1.9 205 gti has beaten him.

The car drinks soo much fuel its ridiculous too
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quote:
Originally posted by Screaming Vtec
They aint that slow, epecially when compared to most of the 'hot-hatchs' you have listed..

I find it amusing how the post if moddified, so its only small new hatches, when the Clio's main rival is the CTR..



slower than Punto GT, Slower than a VTS, slower than a clio cup, 16V & williams. they are slow
Screaming Vtec
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0-60 in 7.7 and 0-100 in 21.3 according to evo...

and I quote

'as quick as a clio 172 cup from point to point, massively more appealing'
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From the same magizine:

Fiat Punto GTT 0-60 in 8 seconds..

205 GTI 7.9

106 gti 0-60 in 7.4 0-100 in 22

VTS 0-60 in 7.6 0-100 in 22,6

lets not get carried away saying they are slow, after all, all the above are slow comparativly speaking..

A car isnt quick unless it can do 0-100 in less than 15 seconds IMO..

If you pick your hot hatches in terms of which one is 'faster' you are missing out.. you should pick the one that offers the most in terms of handling, and fun factor...

I stick with the Cooper S
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and the Clio 182 wouldnt 'thrash' the cooper 's'..

Thrash it by what 1/2 second
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quote:
Originally posted by RobHardyUK
quote:
Originally posted by wainey
5 turbo y's it not on there? is it not a hot hatch


Nah very slow
that right? u ever been in one? even talking standard form they are quicker than most hatches listed, mdified and the listed have no chance! plus mine handles really well considering it only sits on 13's
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quote:
Originally posted by Screaming Vtec
and the Clio 182 wouldnt 'thrash' the cooper 's'..

Thrash it by what 1/2 second



lets see clio cup (172) 16.5s to 100mph
cooperS 22s to 100mph

thats more than 1s
Sooty
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Whats the spec on a 5 turbo.... chris says he has had 2 beaten in his clio...
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quote:
Originally posted by Screaming Vtec
From the same magizine:

Fiat Punto GTT 0-60 in 8 seconds..

205 GTI 7.9

106 gti 0-60 in 7.4 0-100 in 22

VTS 0-60 in 7.6 0-100 in 22,6

lets not get carried away saying they are slow, after all, all the above are slow comparativly speaking..

A car isnt quick unless it can do 0-100 in less than 15 seconds IMO..

If you pick your hot hatches in terms of which one is 'faster' you are missing out.. you should pick the one that offers the most in terms of handling, and fun factor...

I stick with the Cooper S



yes evo stats. punto GT 8s to 60. this is somthing they have not tested and just made this number up. book time with all the extra weight is 7.9s to 62mph. I don;t have faith in EVO's times
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quote:
Originally posted by Sooty
Whats the spec on a 5 turbo.... chris says he has had 2 beaten in his clio...
not sure as ive never looked it up properly, but i read somewhere that 0-60 was 7.3, 120bhp standard, lets not forget they weigh in at 863kgs! thats 6psi standard for all u boost junkies! is chris the one with the 150bhp clio? raced a supposed 147bhp one down by me and raped the stupid little boy senseless! is chris goin to the rolling road day at europarts in stoke? renault sport club and the rtoc are there for the day, should be a good day, the 15th i think!
Sooty
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yep thats him... no idea what he's doin atm... just had a new box put in
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how about polo G40!
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hopefully im goin, but not to go on the rollers, my cars still got no engine in! 2000 glorious miles to run it in with too!
sxi boy
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc D
quote:
Originally posted by Sooty
who put Zetec S


please respect other peoples opinions


by definition the zetec - s isnt a hot hatch, that wud be like saying a corsa 1.4 16v sport is a hot hatch
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quote:
Originally posted by wainey
quote:
Originally posted by Sooty
Whats the spec on a 5 turbo.... chris says he has had 2 beaten in his clio...
raced a supposed 147bhp one down by me and raped the stupid little boy senseless!


its 3 now, never raced one off the line, but through mid range to top end the three R5 GTT's ive raced couldnt touch me, they were all std
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quote:
Originally posted by Sooty
106GTiwas tested against a cooper s.... GTi came out on top FYI


yesh autocar tested the current hot hatch crop around a circuit in april and the gti was beaten only by the CTR and clio cup
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quote:
Originally posted by Nismo
Id say williams Clio is by far the best hot hatch out there.


^^^^ this man knows the score
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quote:
Originally posted by sxi boy
quote:
Originally posted by Nismo
Id say williams Clio is by far the best hot hatch out there.


^^^^ this man knows the score



not really. the clio cup is by far a quicker car
BabyBlade
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The williams is a nicer car, the new shape Clio's look awful imo

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