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big eck
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14th Dec 03 at 00:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Nice pics but not keen on the green corsa with the blue mirrors, really like the white 5 door, red and silver corsas and also the T5 volvo estate, think there is a Yellow T5 in the back ground in one of the pics as well.
Sooty
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14th Dec 03 at 00:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What did Tim make at the wheels?
Kris TD
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
so Adam was leaking boost


nope mine was runing less boost than adams. i was only running 13 psi
Kris TD
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam
Mine:

Non Turbo fuel pump
ITG Sock filter
1.1 Bar and upped fueling
2" Grp A system but it has a 1.75" flexy section in the middle
Filter repositioned to next to left headlight

Kris:

Proper fuel pump
Air Filter repositioned (not sure what filter)
0.8 bar ( i think) and upped fuel
standard exhaust

neither have intercoolers

I have the non turbo fuel pump which delivers a constant flow whereas Kris's fuel pump is a proper TD one which has a diafram that increases the amount of fuel that is deliverd depending on turbo boost.

therefore as the boost increases on mine the amount of fuel going in doesn't increase so i think it starts to run lean at about 3000 rpm but kris's starts adding more fuel then. [/quote}

yeah that about right, mine makes about 16 psi on the road but only got 13 psi in 4th on the rollers.

i got told that the reason my torque is so shite down the bottom end is the fact that i have a standard bore exhust which is strangleing it lower down.

im gonna try some 1.7 injectors in it tommorow to see if that helps.
Kris TD
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14th Dec 03 at 01:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by jr
quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
so Adam was leaking boost


but from what i heard he said whatever valve that runs in the manifold was'nt opening


thats a good thing though, thats the overboost valve which opens when the boost reaches a certain limit, adam was unsure if it would loose him power but it didnt in the end so all is gravy
Kris TD
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14th Dec 03 at 01:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

adam seems to have a much better torque curve, which at the end of the day is more important. need to sort mine now
Adam
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14th Dec 03 at 01:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Sooty
What did Tim make at the wheels?


152 minus the % gearbox loss
Sooty
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14th Dec 03 at 01:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

what was the loss?
Kris TD
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14th Dec 03 at 01:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

all the corsas seemed to loose around 20 bhp through the transmission. there was no exact figures, im only going on that from what i saw on his display and what i saw on the computer at the end of each run. some of the volvos lost shit loads, lik 40-50 bhp through the transmission.
Kris TD
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14th Dec 03 at 01:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well to tell the truth, the graph for both came out on the computer but we only got a print off off the fly figure.
Adam
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14th Dec 03 at 01:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm pretty sure that 4th gear is a 1:1 ratio and most cars loose 16 - 22% on a FWD gearbox

[Edited on 14-12-2003 by Adam]
Kris TD
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yeah i heard that too about the 1:1 ratio
Adam
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14th Dec 03 at 01:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

trying to find the actualt figues
Sooty
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Adam dont be a geek and have your PC spec in your sig
Adam
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14th Dec 03 at 02:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just installed the Vaux TIS not very helpfull, says 4th is 37/33 on WR and 33/37 on CR
vibrio
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14th Dec 03 at 13:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

interrcooler would give really good gains especially as your hitting 1 bar of boost.
Adam
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14th Dec 03 at 13:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I was chatting to the parts matey i use yesterday, for the intercooler I was thinking of making the rad 1/2 as tall but twice as deep and having the intercooler attached to the top and the same size, not sure how else to fit one in the front of a corsa
MattyB
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam
I was chatting to the parts matey i use yesterday, for the intercooler I was thinking of making the rad 1/2 as tall but twice as deep and having the intercooler attached to the top and the same size, not sure how else to fit one in the front of a corsa


Maybe not the most efficient, as i well know, but a top mounted intercooler with a scooby vent? Be alot better than not having one at all?

How do u go bout calculating the size of what intercooler u need etc?

Matt
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14th Dec 03 at 14:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

fit one and hope for the best probably one off another TD wouldbe good
Tam the diesel man
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2447617841&category=43120

this one is a nice size, cheap too
MattyB
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
fit one and hope for the best probably one off another TD wouldbe good



fair douz.....is largest capacity the best?
Kris TD
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14th Dec 03 at 17:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ive got one from a 1.7 tds, that should be fine.
MattyB
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yeah - gonna mount it behind bumper Kris?
Kris TD
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no, in the top grill. no point putting it behind the bumper is wont get any air.
MattyB
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Yeah, but surely they are pretty tall? or is it just top mounted ones that are?

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