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BeArDy
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5th Feb 04 at 20:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by VenomTurbo
ah ok cocka ,off boozing ciao


Fad
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f20's are fine up to 250BHp i have been told, and you will find that all LET's did come with f28 g/bpx's altho you will find most nova/corsa conversion use f20 boxes
BeArDy
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5th Feb 04 at 20:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

an F20 can take 200lbs/ft torque
a C20LET gives out 206lbs/ft torque
p16vlv
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i know a lad with a v6 in a nova running f16 and i think that the v6 has more than 160lbs torque.infact i know it has.
Fad
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v6 running a f16 u sure?
BeArDy
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Yep,
Dave
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Looks like I missed all the fun

Beardy, is that Nova still going? I'm sure he used to live near me but I aint seen it in ages.
BeArDy
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Yep Bretts Nova is still alive as far as i know

You have missed the Fun dave
Dave
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Gutted! It's always fun watching someone squirm when they are fighting a losing battle!
Where does he live, is it over Barlick way?
Andy
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quote:
Originally posted by p16vlv
i know a lad with a v6 in a nova running f16 and i think that the v6 has more than 160lbs torque.infact i know it has.


I ran an F10 for while after I had my car reshelled - 214bhp thro an F10 box But the thing was it was fine . Me thinks these Vaux gearboxes are quite hardy
vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy
quote:
Originally posted by p16vlv
i know a lad with a v6 in a nova running f16 and i think that the v6 has more than 160lbs torque.infact i know it has.


I ran an F10 for while after I had my car reshelled - 214bhp thro an F10 box But the thing was it was fine . Me thinks these Vaux gearboxes are quite hardy



you were just hoping it broke so you could see the AA man
Andy
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The ironic thing is, I had to fit a Quaife box for it to break and to see those very nice men from the AA
fearless
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quote:
Originally posted by CorsaDave
Looks like I missed all the fun

Beardy, is that Nova still going? I'm sure he used to live near me but I aint seen it in ages.


Nova was writen off over a year ago - but has been reshelled into another nova - just need to go and wire it up for him !!!!
Dave
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Is he from Barlick though?
mike16v
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beardys price of 2690 or whatever was for a cheap conversion, yeah he didnt allow for any re-builds etc or servicing but people are going on about an XE conv for £1500 but this doesnt include any servicing or re-builds, so y argue saying u need to re-build a LET adding price when u arent saying u nedd to same to an XE?
BabyBlade
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Originally posted by big eck
Daimo you really are a fanny m8, I used to think that vibs was out of order for giving you a hard time but the way you chat to people on here its no wonder he does it, your sittin there trying to tell a guy that does these kind of conversions alot that he dos'nt know what hes on about



Was thinking the same thing!
Siberia
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v-tuning prices taken from a mail i got off them:

For a C20XE engine and gearbox(F20) package your
looking in the region of about £450 but for a C20LET engine and
gearbox(F28) there in the region of £1600.

When it comes to conversion prices, in order to fit the C20XE we would
charge £1500 and to fit the C20LET we charge £2000. Both of these prices
exclude the actual cost of the engines themselves as stated above but
will include all the labour to carry out the work and also the uprated
hubs/shafts, engine mounts and special adaptors that are required for
this type of conversion. The only additions would say be any other parts
that you would require extra to the standard package.

With either conversion we would however advise that uprated brakes and
suspension are considered(at extra cost)


as somebody said earlyer its all about the money
Donna Corsa GSi


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6th Feb 04 at 09:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

There isn't a wrong or right answer really about what gear box to use. You can use either with the LET conversion. At the end of the day you do what you want to do and what you can afford to do.

I was always lead to believe that the F28 was better because it doesn't cause the engine to be revved so high which isn't good for the turbo but then I could be talking bollox cause I don't really know so you're more then welcome to tell me im wrong

The majority of conversions I have seen an F20 has been used.

And as for whether the engines should be re-conditioned. Surely this is advisable whenever you put an old engine into your car. Its obviously better to change what you can while the engine out the car and parts are easily accessible and then when the engine goes in you should have a nice sweet running engine. But again if you can't afford to go down that route you can just replace things as they go wrong.

This site is good for advice but I would never do what people tell me to do, I would do what I thought was the right thing to do.

[Edited on 06-02-2004 by Donna Corsa GSi]
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i agree with donna, all i was saying thou was people were arguing yesterday over prices and they wasnt comparing prices evenly with same re-builds or sevicing for each option thats all
Donna Corsa GSi


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I don't really think you can say right this conversion will cost you X amount. It all depends where you source your parts from. All you can really say is a LET conversion is far more expensive than an XE and there are more factors to consider. Plus a LET needs to be fiited by a capable mechanic not a jack the lad.

[Edited on 06-02-2004 by Donna Corsa GSi]
Siberia
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if yer going to the hassle of doing a LET conversion u might aswell stick the f28 on mmmmm 6 speed
GIBBS
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daimo
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quote:
Originally posted by Donna Corsa GSi


I was always lead to believe that the F28 was better because it doesn't cause the engine to be revved so high which isn't good for the turbo but then I could be talking bollox cause I don't really know so you're more then welcome to tell me im wrong



shorter ratios will just make the car have a lower speed in each gear the engine will still have a limiter
Donna Corsa GSi


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Yeah I know that the engine will still have a limiter.

But surely if you wanted to drive the engine to its full potential an F28 would be better than a F20.
vibrio
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don;t know the power band of the engine or what speeds you get in each gear etc so I cannot comment

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